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Post by Huer-Ta on Jul 25, 2014 3:22:31 GMT
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Jul 25, 2014 5:06:10 GMT
What to say? It's a repro Han jian. Are the fittings zinc-aluminium alloy or brass? (They look ZnAl to me in the photos.) The cylindrical grips tend to be turned on a lathe, with a cylindrical hole in the middle, which isn't good for strength. See viewtopic.php?f=35&t=12722 for an inside view. Tangs can be rather thin. These are often not quite historical. Historical steel Han jian blades were usually diamond section, with no fullers. The double-fullered style, especially with two very broad fullers, are sort-of based on bronze jian cross-sections. The pommel and scabbard fittings (chape and scabbard slide) were often jade, and guards too. The big chunky guards like this one has were usually jade; bronze guards were usually small and plain (jade guards could be small and plain too). Historical scabbards don't (usually, if ever) have a throat piece. The scabbard is worn between the belt and body (belt through scabbard slide). These repros also usually have round grips. However, the few surviving Han grips I've seen are oval. Some antiques: thomaschen.freewebspace.com/photo.htmlwww.arscives.com/historysteel/cn.steelswords.htm |
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Post by AlvaroWang on Jul 25, 2014 15:37:09 GMT
If I am not mistaken, I think Huer-Ta was asking wether we could track the company that made the sword…
To my untrained eyes, all Han Jian look almost the same, I think it is pretty difficult to track who made what based on looks… Buuut, I guess the manufacturer you presented is not the maker.
The scabbard is missing some details,
The handle looks different,
The blade on site has a layer of black paint and does not present the fullers your sword has.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Jul 26, 2014 1:18:02 GMT
It's a generic Longquan Han jian, probably low end. Very similar swords are available from multiple makers - very hard to narrow it down to one maker or seller. What more can be said without disassembly?
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Post by Huer-Ta on Jul 26, 2014 2:44:37 GMT
Thanks very much gentlemen. How would I go about disassembling this? Are these typically screw on pommels that are epoxied on? This seems like a fun piece if nothing else for the pattern on the blade, but I'd certainly like to tear it Dow to have a look at the tang before I attempt any cutting .
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Post by AlvaroWang on Jul 26, 2014 4:57:44 GMT
Never have I handled Han Jians, only simple tai ji jians, so I won't dare to tell you how to do it, but this link might help you viewtopic.php?f=35&t=5730 |
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Post by Huer-Ta on Jul 28, 2014 14:29:06 GMT
Great, thanks! And thanks again for the assistance everyone  |
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pics below:
