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Post by plantguy90 on Jun 23, 2014 7:11:15 GMT
Am intrigued by this Jian style I'm seeing on ebay. Its a Jian blade on for lack of better terms a shirasaya-style handle/scabbard. Straight blade. It can also be described as a ninjato style weapon with a jian blade and no handguard/tsuba. Here is a pic of one of them. I'm guessing this style sword has no historical background and is something someone cooked up recently. I kind of like the idea of a 1-2 handed handle on a regular jian blade. Any thoughts?  |
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Post by ineffableone on Jun 23, 2014 9:02:28 GMT
If I remember correctly this sort of simple jian style actually did have some historic president in the Tang period as just a simple walking stick sword.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Jun 23, 2014 9:54:04 GMT
There are Korean examples. See, e.g., sword 133 on www.arscives.com/historysteel/ko ... rdlist.htm As for jian with 1-2 hand handles, I haven't seen much in the way of Song and later historical examples, but there are some. Plenty of modern jian with long grips, with the usual Tang/Han style swords, and others (e.g, the Scott Rodell Hanwei jian). |
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Post by plantguy90 on Jun 24, 2014 5:48:08 GMT
Wondering about the Longquan Damascus, what are the odds a $140 sword is tempered? Based on the design, I am hoping there is more substantial tang underneath than even their more expensive offerings. But that's just a guess. I kind of like the walking stick look. Not so much because the sword is hidden but of its clean lines, no handguard. ok, I really like the looks of this one, and am considering taking one for the team, except once its apart all that nice wood is a waste. is there a way to heat off the epoxy without damaging the wood?  |
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Post by chrisperoni on Jun 24, 2014 23:38:58 GMT
I have a huawei ken sword and the nakago is just like on a katana. In the pic above is it glued on for sure, or pinned with mekugi like a katana.
Look up ken sword- that's what I'd call these types
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Post by plantguy90 on Jun 25, 2014 0:55:05 GMT
odd that its closer to a Japanese ken sword than a Chinese ken sword. Googling it turns up some close stuff and lots of regular stuff, that term is obviously misunderstood by most.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Jun 25, 2014 4:36:41 GMT
Katana-like nakago/tang rather than a Chinese-style tang would be the difference between a Japanese-style ken blade and a Chinese-style jian blade. Sort-of copying Japanese ken shirasaya versus copying Chinese/Korean stick swords is a bit funny, because it's the Chinese/Korean stick sword mountings that are intended for use, but real shirasaya are just storage cases. Japanese ken would either just be an unmounted blade (i.e., in shirasaya), a tanto, or a ritual sword usually with a vajra hilt (see japaneseswordindex.com/unji.htm for an example of a ken tanto and a vajra-hilted ken). |
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Post by plantguy90 on Jun 25, 2014 9:28:04 GMT
Oh, so its a stick sword, that makes sense. :lol: Unfortunately the only sellers I can find of these are lqyanggu, asiasword and ryan sword. I have been trying to ask questions to lqyanggu, and have exasperated him as he says his English skills are limited and my Chinese is nil. That or he's dodgy, who knows at this point. Actually I feel better after our exchange because he doesn't speak like a broker/seller with slick sales talk, so maybe he's a decent sword-maker. However, still not comfortable enough to try his stuff out. Being new to this forum, I was saddened to see the negative publicity about Ryan sword, because his stick-sword looks awesome. Also, if RS is throwing in 2 extra Mekugi that indicates the blade can be removed and the tang should be decent, no? But with the negative publicity I am hesitant to throw business in that direction. I have no info on Asiasword, any info would be appreciated.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Jun 25, 2014 9:32:32 GMT
If you look up Zatoichi sword you should find plenty  |
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Post by plantguy90 on Jun 25, 2014 16:26:05 GMT
No, thanks for the tip but its got to be a double edged one, that looks like a jian blade  Speaking of Zatoichi, I got a cheapo Musha one, haven't taken it apart yet, but I cant stand the slight hourglass shaped handle. Aesthetically, its got to be a straight stick, not thinned down near the grip, yuck.  |
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Speaking of Zatoichi, I got a cheapo Musha one, haven't taken it apart yet, but I cant stand the slight hourglass shaped handle. Aesthetically, its got to be a straight stick, not thinned down near the grip, yuck. 
