Uhlan
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Post by Uhlan on Feb 22, 2014 4:14:29 GMT
Interesting summarie of this battle. A somewhat older documentary, but I think, none the worse for it. Enjoy, cheers.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 22, 2014 9:32:29 GMT
Been haunting amazon.com for two years trying to police a copy of Abel Gance's Austerlitz. Your post caused me to take a look today. e voila. You're spending my money again. You're good luck though; only cost $33. Gance like DeMille didn't translate into talkies very well. Even though this was finally completed in 1960 it is uncomfortably dated in form. Finally will get to squirm thru all of it. David Chandler hisself! Master Napoleonic historian of a later Sandhurst generation. Read his "Campaigns" in high school.
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Post by Uhlan on Feb 22, 2014 14:11:29 GMT
Quote: ,, You're spending my money again''. Sooo....,it is my fault you are a born collector and cannot say NO, eh? Well, I will shut up then when I accidently come upon that nice and cheap An XI, shall I? Also, in other news, I found what looks like a nice and well made bunch of copies of the Swedish 1685 Officers Broadsword, $ 336,56 ex. ( Hey, that spells SOB! ). Live ones, not re-enactment stuff. There is also a troopers version, same price. But heh, I will play schtum from now on. Cheers.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 22, 2014 19:44:17 GMT
Was a swedish vendor who special ordered some swords from Universal that they refused to sell direct...
If you find a "cheap" ANXI best grab it for yourself. ( But should you not be so inclined.... )
I used to play schtum myself, but Ravi Shankar said I was awful at it and took my schtum away. :roll: :mrgreen:
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Post by Uhlan on Feb 22, 2014 21:10:35 GMT
I advised Ravi to do so. Man, you were awfull. Ravi: ....WHAT was that?? Me: ,,you know....DK. He's out again? Ravi: F''k F''k F''k.
Would Euro 1200 be to much for a good An XI? Cheers.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 22, 2014 21:32:27 GMT
Literally "good" is like 3 stars out of 5. Consider Guinhut had a refurb with a replica scabbard and wanted 880EU. 1200 + shippings I'd be looking at a VG+ sabre. ( Exchange rate is killing me buying in euro nowadays. Same sabre here is $1450 or $300.00 less. Not asking for sympathy; realize EU rules don't do you any favor trying to import back in either. )
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Post by Uhlan on Feb 23, 2014 0:34:48 GMT
Thanks. You are right. Seems we are in the middle of a covert trade war or something. Now I got to go after the Danish Dragon. See you later. Cheers.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 23, 2014 22:33:17 GMT
Careful it doesn't bite you.
You said something like not relating dragons to Norse lore. The Dragon Nidhoggr dwells below the roots of the tree of life and feeds on the souls of the damned. Thus this frightening totem on longships and weapons brings greif and dispair to your enemies. ( 'course they have the same dragon on theirs. "God is on our side" obviously being monkey gibberish preceding the Christian era by a long shot...)
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Post by Uhlan on Feb 24, 2014 4:34:19 GMT
Well, when I said that, I was totally focussed on sabres. Incredible, since I read a lot of the old sagas years ago. Yes, plenty dragons, worms and other fauna. Much prefer them. Those pesky little gnats they have over there are way, way worse. Cheers.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 24, 2014 4:53:12 GMT
Can't watch this without getting goosebumps. Can you imagine two brigades in regimental column bearing down on you and all you have is a musket and bayonet? :shock: :cry:
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Post by Uhlan on Feb 25, 2014 22:26:44 GMT
Oh man, this is it! The horses like to do this too. You can see them bucking to break free and go all out. Goosebumps? I wanna sign up! Those guys of old must have been so high on adrenaline they never came down again. A charge from up close would rattle the fillings from your teeth, like thunder indeed, slowly swelling and than one is pulped to mush, like with a giant lawnmower. Infantry always draws the shortest straw. My great Grandfather was on the other side, Polish Ulahn. My father told me that, as a kid, he broke the old lance that was still in the attic somewhere. Thanks Dave, this was wonderful.
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Feb 26, 2014 3:56:13 GMT
It would take a thin red streak topped with a line of steel to stop that!
(Up the 93d Highlanders!)
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 26, 2014 11:02:58 GMT
The ability of cavalry to break infantry has been an historical give and take; generally favoring the lowly infantryman. Most of those memorable mass cavalry charges of the Napoleonic Era went badly when confronted by ordered and determined footmen. But lordy, they are a site to see.
The one I would have paid to see was Vienna, 1683. An all day slug fest as the Ottoman's fended off the Polish/German confederated army while they tried and failed to breech Vienna's Walls. Late in the day, with the Turks exhausted, The Polish King finally gives the order to loose SEVEN DIVISIONS of Husaria and Reiters, some 18,000 cavalrymen in a charge that cleared the field. A for real Peter Jackson moment much celebrated in eastern european history, and practically unknown in the West.
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Post by Uhlan on Feb 26, 2014 12:41:55 GMT
Well, you pay me and I will send you tickets. Better still, I send you my list of must have sabers and I get you a front row seat. As for this battle to be unknown in the West, well, depends by which side of the political spectrum one was educated. Certain PTB want to erase European culture and history. Would like to hunt them down, clad in full Polish Winged Hussar regalia. :twisted: :evil: No mercy.
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