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Post by Bryan Heff on Feb 13, 2014 21:36:49 GMT
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Post by Bryan Heff on Feb 13, 2014 21:59:22 GMT
better weld pics
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Post by William Swiger on Feb 13, 2014 23:13:21 GMT
I looks pretty stable. When I saw the topic - I thought pencil thin welded on extension. ;-)
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Post by Bryan Heff on Feb 14, 2014 0:26:13 GMT
That's kinda what I am thinking too. Seems pretty heavy rod. Its also peened. My biggest concern is the weld itself but I have no way of knowing what constitutes a "good" weld.
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Post by Talon on Feb 14, 2014 2:38:37 GMT
It's not the traditional rat tail I was expecting to see.You seem to have a good 3 inches of tang before that pretty beefy rod.I wouldn't have any problems with it to be honest.I don't know if the weld has been re heated to relieve stress,but even without knowing it looks perfectly usable .
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Feb 14, 2014 4:09:39 GMT
The weld outlived the grip, so seems to be OK.
If you feel uncomfortable with it, drill through the tang and pin/rivet through the grip, Chinese-style. That way, if the weld fails and the pommel comes off, the grip stays attached to the sword.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Feb 14, 2014 4:21:09 GMT
The weld is fine.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Feb 14, 2014 12:07:28 GMT
Looks pretty good, substantial tang before the rod and the weld looks fine.
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Post by Luka on Feb 14, 2014 18:31:03 GMT
Del Tin made welded tangs like this for a long time and breaks were very rare. Don't worry.
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Post by Bryan Heff on Feb 14, 2014 19:26:07 GMT
Thanks for all the replies guys. I was thinking it was OK but wanted some other opinions. Yes Luka, I heard that the old Del Tins had these rods welded on and they seemed to hold up and this seems to be one of those. Again, thanks all for the input.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 2:30:32 GMT
I think Lutel uses welded-on threaded tang extensions also; i saw it on some post around here. Never heard of problems with them.
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Post by brotherbanzai on Mar 15, 2014 19:57:51 GMT
"peened" doesn't mean much when it's just peened to a round rod without the pommel keyed to the tang. Looks like a 5/16" rod, if so, that is pretty substantial and shouldn't be a problem by itself. The weld is not bad, but is also not terribly good. It appears in the pictures that the weld does not join from one side to the other. There is a dark line on either side (on the edge side of the tang not the flat). If the weld doesn't flow into the base metal at the edge, it could tend to indicate that it also doesn't have very deep penetration. Then some of the weld that was there was ground off to flatten the shape. Additionally, the pockmarks in the weld would tend to indicate a dirty weld. Since it was likely ground somewhat smooth, those pockmarks were originally porosity inside the weld.
I would expect the areas of the tang which would be under the most stress would be the area at the shoulder and where it enters the pommel, so an iffy weld in the center might not be the end of the world. If it were mine, I would clamp it in a vice and put some pressure on it. If it isn't sturdy enough for that, I wouldn't use it for anything other than hanging on the wall. If it seems sturdy, I would do as was suggested and pin the grip as well as epoxy it on to reduce the possibility of a flying helicopter of death occurring. It would have been better to have the tang slotted and the rod extending farther down it and welded rather than just stuck on the end.
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