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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2007 16:49:35 GMT
does anyone know a site that sells functional replica trench spikes?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2007 12:50:03 GMT
Forgive my ignorance but what is a trench spike?
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Post by rammstein on Aug 11, 2007 13:21:29 GMT
Imagine a set of brass knuckles combined with a long spike.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2007 13:58:57 GMT
that sounds nasty. were they used in WWI then? and by which side?
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Post by rammstein on Aug 11, 2007 14:22:28 GMT
Yes, and I believe everyone used them. Far more effective in raiding trenches than a rifle could be. Maces of various sorts were also used.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2007 12:07:53 GMT
www.imsplus.com/ims8d.html there you go Leith17 this place has two kinds of trench spikes. and a whole bunch of other nasty stabin' tools!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2007 21:02:26 GMT
Nice, not only do they have the spikes, but I think they have a lower price for the same Carbon Steel Kukri I wanted from another site.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2007 21:04:15 GMT
Which spike should I go with?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2007 16:59:08 GMT
Hey those trench spikes are stainless. Should I look for a carbon steel one instead?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2007 17:36:12 GMT
Stainless shouldn't matter in a blade that small. Anything under 9" should be fine.
I'd go with the second one personally, because the originals usually had triangular blades. This created a three sided wound that wouldn't close up and stop bleeding.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2007 0:23:32 GMT
True, but I like the brass knuckle design of the other one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2008 6:20:36 GMT
The spike type were older designs that supposedly used old French bayonets as blade material. The one with the actual dagger blade and cast brass handle is the Model 1918, which I have heard actually was out too late to take part in WWI, though some were used early in WWII. Some of the original 1918's I've seen in pictures had blades and pommels which were darkened to prevent light reflecting from them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2008 6:30:48 GMT
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Post by jpfranco on Jan 7, 2008 12:55:43 GMT
This pictures is from the new and greatly improved War Museum in Ottawa(Canada's Nation's Capitale) of trench rais "tools" Enjoy!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2008 16:45:56 GMT
Hey, cool JP! I've always found it interesting that the mace was still being used as a legitimate combat weapon up until the 20th century.
Those triangular trench spikes aren't much different then the rondels and stilettos of the renaissance either.
Is that a Webly revolver with a Prichard Greener bayonet on the left? Cool.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 8, 2008 4:35:42 GMT
triangle blades are illegal by the international rules of war ------ cause triangle wounds can't be stiched
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2008 10:10:16 GMT
triangle blades are illegal by the international rules of war ------ cause triangle wounds can't be stiched Just out of curiosity, where did you get this piece of info? Military history is a hobby of mine. I'm familiar with the Geneva convention's rules concerning treatment of POW's and general "rules of 'civilized' warfare", and the earlier Hague convention's ban on expanding bullets and devices solely meant to deliver toxic agents (which is why German gas shells in WWI had a charge of HE in them sufficient to to cause damage, as well as dispersing the gas), as well as a vague "any weapon intended to cause excessive suffering" clause, but where are triangular blades specifically prohibited? Especially since several military rifles made at least into the 1960s had triangular bayonets. Not disbelieving you, mind, I'd just never heard that before.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2008 13:51:48 GMT
I wasn't aware that wounds from triangular blades were any harder to stitch than any other weapon. The fairbairn-sykes has and still is used and the boker applegate fairbairn is also in use so not sure where you read it but I think it was a typo or something, also triangular straight bladed knives cut and stab more cleanly than most.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 8, 2008 16:15:13 GMT
don't remember think it was 10 grade history or a museum trip when I went to canada as a kid and yes a triangle wound is hard to stich (try cuting a bayonete sized hole in a piece of scrap leather)
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 8, 2008 16:17:19 GMT
how'd that happen?
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