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Post by justin520 on Nov 11, 2013 22:10:25 GMT
Who's got the bomb sabers? Looking for Napoleonic and British sabers that are fine cutters, preferably without those all steel scabbards. Thanx
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Nov 11, 2013 22:15:53 GMT
You might want to PM Dave Kelly...if anyone would know, he'd be it.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Nov 12, 2013 0:28:39 GMT
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Post by Paul on Nov 12, 2013 0:56:42 GMT
Thanks for that list Dave, just booked marked this thread.
I’ve wanted to add a saber to my list but was a bit lost. Oddly my interest in them was sparked by the short saber(ish) swords I keep seeing in the TV series Revolution.
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Post by justin520 on Nov 12, 2013 1:47:00 GMT
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Post by Dave Kelly on Nov 12, 2013 2:18:09 GMT
You can get these sharpened from KoA/Universal, blades are not sufficiently tapered to be representative of the historic sowrds and will be harder to control the weight, but you can make them work. Trade off between good looks and easier cutting.
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Post by Elrikk on Nov 12, 2013 2:22:00 GMT
What about the Universal "Hadik"?
Btw Dave, my Princess is on the way!
My 2 cents...I was very tepid about my CS Talwar, but I'm trying to build my collection from every culture...but I LOVE IT.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Nov 12, 2013 2:50:20 GMT
The Hadik, The Russian Guards and the Napoleonic Guards were all built around a badly tapered French Napoleonic Montmorency blade which is much longer than the corresponding 1760s sabersof the other two types.
My dressed up Hadik is a handsome showpiece but nothing I'd want to use. Much the same applies to the Mameluke.
I think you'll be impressed with the "coffin handled" 30th Dragoons officers saber. This type hilt was one type saber that migrated with Hussar mercenaries to the western monarchies.
Richard Deller's new book on British Cavalry Sabers devotes a whole chapter to these sabers.
I'm suspicious of most over the counter tulwars. The historic ones have a great reputation.
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Post by justin520 on Nov 12, 2013 6:02:52 GMT
Tulwars made today don't use the same hilt construction and are therefor lesser swords. I really do like that dragoon design, are there any other quality cutter French hussar blades?
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Post by Elrikk on Nov 13, 2013 0:46:20 GMT
Dave,
As always, I defer to your knowledge of all things "Saber-ry". I think I got really lucky with my example of the Talwar, what I believe to be a re-hilted "CS 1796". I really never liked the look of the grip until I held it, but the "ball grip" feels really good in my hand.
I really can't wait for my "Princess" and I'm glad it was on your "Short list"
Elrikk
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Post by Onimusha on Nov 14, 2013 11:46:28 GMT
What makes you say that? I've seen antique tulwars that had their blades glued in with pitch. A pomel nut beats the heck out of that.
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Post by justin520 on Nov 14, 2013 15:17:23 GMT
Glued in with pitch is how a lot of swords were done in history, particularly tulwar. This solidified the otherwise hollow hilt, brass hilts are easy to destroy when hollow, pitch is superior here. Also if you care about historical context it is superior.
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Post by justin520 on Nov 16, 2013 6:04:47 GMT
Back to the point though, yeah french sabers or short sabers. Also straight sabers. Once again preferably no steel scabbard nonsens and I'd also rather like it if they had no hangers and were more suitable for baldrics.
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Post by justin520 on Nov 22, 2013 23:54:10 GMT
Also does anybody know about cold steel sabers?
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Post by Dave Kelly on Nov 23, 2013 5:05:05 GMT
Nope :mrgreen:
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Post by justin520 on Nov 23, 2013 5:06:20 GMT
Lol, thought as much. The dragoon you linked is nice, but more than anything I want a French Napoleonic saber.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Nov 23, 2013 5:16:44 GMT
Like we've been saying, if you are constrained to a financial limit that keeps you in the sub $300.00 then the Cold Steel French year 11 is in the ball park from a fencible standpoint, and should be cutting sharp. ( CS calls it an 1830, but it's even marked Oct 1813 on the backblade... )
Only other option is to go to KoA and get one of the Universals sharpened. Can't think of any other maker in that range with a product.
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Post by justin520 on Nov 23, 2013 5:57:19 GMT
Hit me with some more expensive stuff than, just for the sake of knowing. You might convince me. Plus you say universals feel weird, just as well KoA does strange things to blades they sharpen.
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Post by justin520 on Nov 24, 2013 4:32:57 GMT
Also who makes french hussar blades with good P.O.B, I here universals are too far from the hilt.
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Post by William Swiger on Jan 13, 2014 1:17:51 GMT
I ordered the Universal Swords British 1803 Infantry Officer Sword that was in Dave's top 5 list. Will post when it gets here.
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