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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2008 23:14:28 GMT
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Post by hotspur on Feb 8, 2008 1:02:16 GMT
I don't want to burst your bubble but those two pictures are of two entirely different sabre like objects. There are at least three tiers of product coming out of India to represent swords of the American Civil War. Not unlike a cutlass that was recently pictured here, the blade on this is a quite whimsical representation of a 19th century sword. It may well be perfectly servicable when sharpened but the form overall gets less points than the one pictured at the Boutique site. Step up to $129 for the better grade (when you can) and you'll see where the money went. If you do review it with historical perspective in mind, spend some time looking at originals and you'll see many of the reasons that one is a $39 sword. Even scope out some of the other reproductions and you'lll notice some real differences in details like blade grinds and castings. This one from AC looks very much like the Deepeeka that has been around for several years. Note they mention limited quantity. Note also that they sell better swords, American Civil War stuff in particular. A wide variety of grades and prices can be seen at other sources such as www.legendaryarms.com and other CW sutler sites. Here is a dealer page to browse for what they really looked like (there are many such). www.civilwarantiqueshop.com/swords.htmI'm sorry but a lot of these cheaper takes on history really make my brain bleed. This is one of those times. Good luck with it, just don't be fooled it is anything more than a length of steel that only roughly approximates what it is meant to. Fine for costume. Cheers Hotspur; I'm really sad to see the bar dropped that low |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2008 3:20:28 GMT
The $39 replica has a very prominent pommel nut, whereas the original does not and has a peened construction. Also notice the differences in the grips and in the casting of the guards (the replica has an extra branch). The replica also appears to have a backstrap.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2008 11:41:52 GMT
LOL dont worry about it hotspur Im far from expecting pristeen quality. I wouldnt spendmuch more on anything but a euro sword, which are my preference. This is going to simply be a wallhanger, not much else. And I dont think anyone looking at it is going to be pointing out its grieviences. But thanks for the insight, guys  |
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Post by hotspur on Feb 8, 2008 13:45:06 GMT
To be fair, they do just call it a trooper's model, so maybe they were really thinking of something ;Delse ???but the similar modern hilts do pop up sold as ACW swords.
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Hotspur; I do sometimes eye wallhangers for scabbards
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2008 0:51:06 GMT
Sword recieved. Review coming tommorow. All I can say is this: For the price, its wonderful.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2008 20:40:31 GMT
Sort of like the $100 18th century naval cutlass replica I got from Godwin's, as far as having a pommel nut vs. being peened over. Wonder if they're from the same Indian manufacturer...?
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Post by hotspur on Feb 21, 2008 20:56:10 GMT
It is hard to say for sure how many shops are responsible for the great variety of stuff we see coming out of India. Even some goods sold and marked by Windlass (I am fairly certain) is not manufactured by them. If you take a look at import/export sites like Indiamart, you soon start to see different quality levels of stuff and some of their supposed sources. www.deepeeka.com/ has a huge inventory they move but are likely (as with Windlass) only directly responsible for producing some of them. www.weaponedge.com is another and on, and on. There are more and more retailers worldwide that are cutting out the middlemen and using brokers other than Deepeeka and Windlass (to just name two). Sword workshops (nnumbers of) in sections of india probably make what's going on with the inexpensive Chinese katana production pale by comparison. In all honesty, attaching some formed sheetmetal, a handle and some fru fru to a length of steel is kind of a no brainer for a manufacturing source. Some of the India produced historical swords are really not badly done for the price and even the least expensive may have some appeal and durability. It still makes me a little dizzy to look at some of them very objectively. Several of the Deepeeka offered replicas really hurt me to look at and the sabre hilt of this thread looks very much like one of their old models. It's not unlike a series of rapiers MRL used to sell that now pop up for less than $50. Something for everyone, I guess. It takes some time scouting around but the overlap of distribution (export) and the different tiers of quality come to light. That can make it difficult to judge between some of the offerings though. Some retailers sell the different qualities (such as Godwin) and if the pictures are decent, the differences can be seen. Cheers Hotspur; I have three from India and like them all well enough for what they are |
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