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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2007 16:34:33 GMT
Ok, that's the problem: I'm searching since one month a functionnal rapier, with a real stiff blade who can make true stabbing, and not a flexible training blade for fencing. In our price range, it's mission impossible... The only interesting item i'have found is the Gedeney Godwin colichemarde smallsword (here -> www.gggodwin.com/swords.htm and here -> www.myarmoury.com/review_ggg_ss.html). I think it's the next sword on my buying list, because it look great and very effective with this blade and this incredible weight. But it's an overall 37 inches smallsword, and i search a more longer sword, maybe with overall 45 inches. Is anybody know something in our price range with an effective blade ? Or should i continue to put coins in my moneybox for buying an expensive but truly rapier ?... Thanks |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2007 21:31:03 GMT
Look here: www.armsofvalour.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=AOVL&Category_Code=R1Only the first two are fencing blades. The blades and hilts can usualy be swapped. You can PM Trueswordsman who is active on this board and works there. He will set you up with something you will like. If that does not work out go here: www.by-the-sword.com/Seach "rapiers" on their website. A few came up including a Windlass rapier. Windless blades in general do flex more then I think they should but they would be deadly in unarmored duels. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2007 22:25:05 GMT
Yes Tsafa, maybe the windlass products can be a good option, like this rapier : www.kultofathena.com/product~item~500958~name~Blackened+Rapier.htm. In the by-the-sword site they have Hanwei rapiers, but i think there blades are too soft for thrusting. They are made for safety fencing. We can also consider the Czech products, but i think they are a little bit too heavy. It's not easy to found a good item ! Is anybody who had a sub 300$ rapier can describe us its effectiveness ? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2007 0:06:57 GMT
Hanwai practical rapiers are cast rather then forged. I was fencing someone and one of the hanwai blades broke into three pieces on impact. I am guessing the functional rapiers are cast as well. I think only the ones that say "practical" are flexi-blades. You asked for a description of effectiveness. I think that may be somewhat confusing. Any pointy blade will effectively kill. If I took the rubber tips off my flexi-blades and sharpened them to a point they would be just as deadly through normal cloth. It does not take much effort to get penetration. Even with the flex and rubber tips most people get bruises if I don't watch my calibration. If you try to do percussion strikes with most rapiers they will eventually break in the tang or in the blade. That is just the the nature of thin long blades. Kind of like the point of a pencil. They can take a lot of force straight down but not to the side. A Cut and Thrust sword is better suited for cuts but is point-heavy. Point control suffers and it gets tiring if you fight point-in-line. If you mean by effectiveness balance and handling, those qualities will vary in rapiers more then any other sword. Only because rapier fighters are more sensitive. They control the rapier more with their fingers. The best thing to really do is go a Ren Fair where you can try out a whole bunch. That is now I got the last one I bought. Just some things for you to think about. If you don't find anything you like in generic rapiers. Talk to the guys of these to sites. The make custum rapiers. Many of them are sub 300. I am sure they can mount a hard sharp blade on one of thier custum hilts. www.jamesthejust.com/(I think this guy has some sharp Iberia blades he can mount on his hilts) www.popinj.com/I think you might also like to take a look at the following webpage. It will show you some good rapier drills. I put this up over a year ago. Funny thing is that I am doing the rapier drills with a very well balanced longsword. I can fight my rapier style with this longsword. It is only a few onces heavier then the average rapier. mysite.verizon.net/tsafa1/g2blackprince/index.htm |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2007 11:28:21 GMT
Yes, of course, a sharpened flexi-blade can be dangerous and penetrant. But in a fight, i think it's better to have a stiff blade to penetrate easily. Try to pierce a water bottle with an flexi-blade, i'm sure sometime it can miss... If you had an ennemy with leather clothes, it's the same problem. And in a fight with an other swordmen, it's maybe better for make beat & fence technique. You can read this page : www.thearma.org/Youth/rapieroutline.htm, there is a lot of informations about real rapiers |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2007 22:39:52 GMT
Darksword has a nice looking rapier on their homepage, but I don't see it in the list of available swords. Maybe you could talk to them and see what they can do for you. If you check out Paul's review of the Darksword Knight sword, you'll see that the blade is very stiff. If they can do that with a medieval type sword, I'd imagine their rapier would be more than stiff enough for good thrusting without folding. www.sword-buyers-guide.com/knight-sword.htmlwww.darksword-armory.com/index.html  |
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