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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2008 18:44:30 GMT
Hello, I'm starting to be interested into swords and armor, so I'm pretty much a newbie at this.
I'm looking for some gauntlets. I can't say I'm a fan of those medieval looking steel gauntlets. I've looked at a couple some people here mentioned, and they look like they impair movement a lot.
What I'd like to have is a more modern-ish kind of gauntlet, made with more modern materials. Not metal, more like those weird spin offs of solid plastics they have been discovering. Though, depending on what it is, metal can be fine too. It doesn't have to be super-protective, but more protective than the average leather gauntlet. I wouldn't want to cut myself a finger if I do a wrong maneuver with my sword. So strong enough so protect my hand against a certain level of abuse, but it doesn't have to be all-armored like those medieval gauntlets people would wear to war and that would purposely get hit. I would also like it to be relatively light and not too stiff, it would bother me if it was really heavy and my hand would feel stuck. And I would like it if the gauntlet also protected the wrist.
I hope that made sense despite all the details.
Feel free to propose me things that are different from what I said, I might like it or it might give me some ideas. I'm not sure if this the good forum to ask a question like this, since this is more of a contemporary kind of armour piece I am looking for, but somebody might know. Meanwhile I'll keep looking on internet.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2008 19:15:44 GMT
Hello! Welcome to the forum.
You say you want them to protect your hand from being cut if you perform a wrong maneuver with your sword. Your hands are very unlikely to be the things damaged if you happen to do something wrong. I would be more worried about legs and ears.
Unless you meant catching the sword if it fell. In that case, no gauntlet would protect your hands, because invariably the only hard material on a gauntlet is on the outside of your hand.
However, I would like to say that those steel plate gauntlets don't impair you as much as you would think, as long as the gauntlets fit correctly. I mean, they wouldn't be much good if you couldn't move your hands right?
Unfortunately, I can't answer your question, because I specifically look for historical accuracy in gauntlets, and ABS plastic aint' it.
I'm sure someone else has some suggestions though.
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Post by ShooterMike on Jan 25, 2008 20:07:42 GMT
Neo, You could take a look at the gloves Hatch Corp makes for riot control and law enforcement. I have a pair of their gloves and can attest to the high quality and good durability. Are any of these close to what you had in mind? I've been contemplating a pair of CRT-100 gloves for light sparing with wooden wasters.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2008 3:13:54 GMT
Revival sells heavily padded WMA gauntlets, which are quite a bit like reinforced hockey gloves. I have also heard and seen Motorcross and Motorcycle gloves with some metal plates attached with webbing underneath (nylon glove). Meant to protect if the bike hits the pavement.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2008 22:57:12 GMT
Icon TiMax Motorcycle Gloves These are about as modern as metallic-armoured gauntlets can possibly get. Tried them on at the dealer where I bought my bike. They're a bit bulky, but flexible and comfortable. Had I the money, and practiced WMA, I would have no qualms about purchasing these gloves. tinyurl.com/2ecb8sI've searched around, and other then eBay, they seem a bit harder to get ahold of these days. Link edited. Sorry, didn't catch that little problem. Still don't see why the simple url tags dont allow lengthier adresses...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2008 1:18:48 GMT
Holyroller, you might want to imbed the URL {url=blahblahblah}Text{/url} (swap { with [), or look at tinyurl.com. As it is right now, you have to copy the second part of this to see the gloves. That was the same type of thing I was mentioning above. Thanks for the link.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2008 23:35:35 GMT
i forgot what there called but theres these gloves that are leather with steel shot in em they'd work nicely
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2008 0:43:52 GMT
Slight delrail. Holyroller, the reason the url tags didnt work is because the address spanned two different lines. Without a placeholder (the "Text" example), HTML doesnt work across multiple lines. So the first part was an imbedded url, and the second part wasnt.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2008 1:51:35 GMT
i forgot what there called but theres these gloves that are leather with steel shot in em they'd work nicely Steel shot? Maybe you're thinking of the lead-lined gloves I've seen, often marketed with a photo of the glove being used to punch a crack in a concrete block. These are not particularly defensive gloves. They offer only as much protection as the glove-leather, have no cuff-length, and the lead is only in a punch's strike-zone. Even steel shot would offer no protective quality... Unless you have something different in your head? Please elaborate. OSWYN: I'm thoroughly convinced that hypertext markup language is evil. Plain and simple. I refuse to try to understand it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2008 9:54:01 GMT
Ice Falcon has some nice kydex gauntlets that are very practical. $150 store.fastcommerce.com/prod_icefalcon_ff80818117a128ef0117a2499ccf2ad8.htmlYou will need a pair of street hockey golves to wear on the inside which he sells too. $25 I am not entirely sure these will help your purpose. Your grip will significantly widen too. I find a thick pair of garden gloves is enough for practicing half-swording without cutting myself. Just don't let your hand slide down the blade. Gauntlets are the last piece of armor you would buy to complete an armor set. I don't think you should start with gauntlets.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2009 0:36:14 GMT
what piece should you start with?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2009 13:51:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2009 20:07:01 GMT
i forgot what there called but theres these gloves that are leather with steel shot in em they'd work nicely Steel shot? Maybe you're thinking of the lead-lined gloves I've seen, often marketed with a photo of the glove being used to punch a crack in a concrete block. These are not particularly defensive gloves. They offer only as much protection as the glove-leather, have no cuff-length, and the lead is only in a punch's strike-zone. Even steel shot would offer no protective quality... Unless you have something different in your head? Please elaborate. OSWYN: I'm thoroughly convinced that hypertext markup language is evil. Plain and simple. I refuse to try to understand it. I, too, think he is referring to the SAP gloves, which are only offensive-based although there may be models that are made to be cut-resistant, it won't do much for blunt force trauma should you be unlucky enough to suffer it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2009 18:44:57 GMT
He might be thinking of "Gauntlet Gloves" which is the common term for razor-wire gloves.
Those wouldn't be any use for this, either, though. The metal is just staples on the grip surface of the leather glove. Keeps you from getting your hands ripped to shreds by the razor-wire, but is useless otherwise. And they are Very restrictive of your movement.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2009 22:16:29 GMT
what piece should you start with? a good well fitting helmet ... protect the important goods 1st
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2009 18:45:01 GMT
Hi guys, sorry to reopen a dead thread but I just couldnt let this one lie. Neo , you stated when you started this thread that you were just getting into armour and swords, but you dont like the look of steel gaunlets and you think they would be bulky and cumbersome, and you wonder what would be a good modern equivalent to use during training. Well theres only one real answer to your question, there is no modern equivalent to replace well made steel gauntlets. Steel gauntlets are neither cumbersome nor heavy and if well made they fit.... well like a glove. Any glove that has too much padding in it will affect the way you grip your sword, so the only way you can protect yourself and at the same time keep the required dexterity to use a sword properly is to use the thinnest, hardest material you can find ( steel ) and articulate it so it is not cumbersome to proper technique, any well made steel gauntlet, either of hourglass design, or gothic articulated design will serve you far better than anything modern you can find that was designed for something other than using a sword. Period.
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