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Post by Valandur on May 30, 2013 22:38:46 GMT
I read all kinds of books, from fiction to historical to cooking, I've read more books then I can count, I can say that much. One of the fantasy sets that I've always loved was Michael Moorecock's "Elric of "Melniboné". The iconic swords Stormbringer and Morneblade have been reused in many other books, games, even songs. Black swords, with black blades. Sounds simple enough. No telling who owns the rights to those names, but its a simple matter to change the names while letting the viewer understand what he's seeing. The sword could be called Black Blade, after the Blue Oyster Cult song, and its twin could be named something like Ebon "mourn" Blade. There are tons of images created by tons of artists, but I've always favored this depiction..  I think this could be a good selling blade, done with quality fittings, even a jewel in the pommel, nicely done leather wrapping, maybe with the veins in it like..... Crap I forget who did the rewrap on the sword... Anyway, with a lot of detail work this could be a sweet blade for the $600-1000 market with maybe a cheaper version offered in the $400-500 range? Just having the chance to own "Stormbringer" if well done would be enough to make me buy. Maybe it's my age, but when I think of swords, its one of he top ones that comes to mind. And I wonder why no one has make one. |
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Post by Deepbluedave on May 31, 2013 11:01:53 GMT
Raven Armoury do an official version of both Stormbringer and Mournblade as well as a special edition version, they are a little pricey but... they look exceptional to me, on a side note I just finshed rereading these books very entertaining. Here is a couple of photos and a link to Raven Amroury's site... enjoy.   www.raven-armoury.co.uk/stormbringer.html |
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Post by Valandur on May 31, 2013 12:59:20 GMT
I like the pommel on the first sword. I like the blade from this one..  That is a bit pricy. I was thinking of a sub $1000 sword that could still have style and uniqueness all it's own without the custom price, but they didnt do a bad job at Raven. Don't really care for either guard, and the blade on he first sword in the post above mine looks like it was copied from an elf sword? Just my opinion of these. At least someone did take them on, and even got the author involved +1 |
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Post by Anders on Jun 17, 2013 8:49:51 GMT
For the sake of completion, here's one Rick Barret made:  |
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Post by feral on Oct 6, 2013 4:24:04 GMT
I always wanted the version wielded by Ulrik Skarsol, Lord of the southern wastes on the cover of "The Silver Warriors". The one from the painting where he's on a chariot pulled by 4 polar bears.
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Post by ineffableone on Oct 6, 2013 4:53:22 GMT
This one.  I definitely love the entire Eternal Champion series. It was an amazing story, and one I have read quite a few times. I think some of the problems with making Stormbringer first and foremost, the black blade. To get a black blade that wont wear off the black is not an easy task. second, there are many different interpretations of what the sword should look like. As soon as you make one, people will complain it is not what they envisioned. third, these are the days of movies. Sadly people don't read books like they used to. Stormbringer isn't a movie sword so doesn't get the reproduction loving that movie swords do. Personally I like the Raven Armory Rodey Mathews Stormbringer, but not the price tag. LOL |
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Post by john570 on Oct 6, 2013 8:42:38 GMT
I like the Frazetta version in the painting as well. But the ones raven armory did are pretty hot. If I was gonna have one made I'd have brenno do it.
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Post by Beowulf on Oct 6, 2013 8:52:50 GMT
I wanted one made for me once... when I was too young and penniless to afford such a thing. I looked into titanium plating. Apparently Ti can be colored, I don't understand it scientifically (I haven't looked at that since then). That to my young mind seemed like the best option for blackening.
I keep wanting Windlass to make something I can snatch up and heavily mod into one of Stormbringer's countless siblings.
I gotta reread those books. I loved them.
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Post by john570 on Oct 6, 2013 19:35:15 GMT
How many books are there. I only read the eternal champion when I was in my teens.
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Post by Valandur on Oct 6, 2013 20:13:46 GMT
There are s bunch of books that make up the tale as a whole. They don't connect like a huge tale broken up into many books. Although they do tend to overlap, elements of the stories, while in more then one book, stand on their own as independent works. In addition to Elric, other incarnations of the champion are Jerry Cornelious, Corum, Hawkmoon. I'm familiar with those characters, but apparently the author has added many characters to the story as a whole.
Here's a list from a wiki site. Not sure how complete it is;
This is the sequence as published (in omnibus editions) by White Wolf Publishing from 1994 to 2000 (and now out of print). That was the last time they were published all together in a comprehensive collection, though there have been several stories (The Dreamthief's Daughter, The Skrayling Tree, and The White Wolf's Son, among them) added to the cycle since then, and some of the stories have been published in new editions (sometimes with changes), as well. In brackets are listed the incarnation(s) of the Eternal Champion featured in a given story.
Vol. 1: The Eternal Champion
The Eternal Champion [Erekosë/John Daker]
The Sundered Worlds (has also been titled The Blood Red Game) [Renark von Bek and Asquiol of Pompeii]
Phoenix in Obsidian (later titled The Silver Warriors in the US) [Erekosë/John Daker/Urlik Skarsol]
"To Rescue Tanelorn" [Rackhir the Red Archer]
Vol. 2: Von Bek
The War Hound and the World's Pain [Ulrich von Bek]
The City in the Autumn Stars [Manfred von Bek]
The Dragon in the Sword [Erekosë/John Daker/Prince Flamadin and Ulrich von Bek]
"The Pleasure Gardens of Felipe Sagittarius" [Minos von Bek](revised from a non-series story of the same name)
Vol. 3: Hawkmoon [all four stories with Dorian Hawkmoon]
The Jewel in the Skull
The Mad God's Amulet
The Sword of the Dawn
The Runestaff (originally titled The Secret of the Runestaff)
Vol. 4: A Nomad of the Time Streams [all three stories with Oswald Bastable]
The Warlord of the Air
The Land Leviathan
The Steel Tsar
Vol. 5: Elric: The Song of the Black Sword [all six stories with Elric]
Elric of Melniboné
The Fortress of the Pearl
The Sailor on the Seas of Fate [also Erekosë, Corum, and Hawkmoon]
"The Dreaming City"
"While the Gods Laugh"
"The Singing Citadel"
Vol. 6: The Roads Between the Worlds
The Wrecks of Time (has also been titled The Rituals of Infinity) [Professor Faustaff]
The Winds of Limbo (originally titled The Fireclown) [Alan Powys]
The Shores of Death (originally titled The Twilight Man) [Clovis Becker]
Vol. 7: Corum: The Coming of Chaos [all three stories with Corum]
The Knight of the Swords
The Queen of the Swords
The King of the Swords [also Elric and Erekosë, briefly]
Vol. 8: Sailing to Utopia
The Ice Schooner [Konrad Arflane]
The Black Corridor [Ryan]
The Distant Suns [Colonel Jerry Cornelius, who seems to be a different character from Jerry Cornelius](written with James Cawthorn)
"Flux" [Max von Bek]
Vol. 9: Kane of Old Mars [all three stories with Michael Kane]
City of the Beast (originally titled Warriors of Mars)
Lord of the Spiders (originally titled Blades of Mars)
Masters of the Pit (originally titled Barbarians of Mars)
Vol. 10: The Dancers at the End of Time [all three stories with Jherek Carnelian]
An Alien Heat
The Hollow Lands
The End of All Songs
Vol. 11: Elric: The Stealer of Souls [all six stories with Elric]
The Sleeping Sorceress (has been sometimes titled The Vanishing Tower) [also Erekosë and Corum]
The Revenge of the Rose
"The Stealer of Souls"
"Kings in Darkness"
"The Caravan of Forgotten Dreams" (previously titled "The Flame Bringers")
Stormbringer
Vol. 12: Corum: The Prince with the Silver Hand [all three stories with Corum]
The Bull and the Spear
The Oak and the Ram
The Sword and the Stallion
Vol. 13: Legends from the End of Time (collection of novellas)
"Pale Roses"
"White Stars"
"Ancient Shadows"
"Constant Fire" (previously titled The Transformation of Miss Mavis Ming and A Messiah at the End of Time )
Elric at the End of Time [Elric]
Vol. 14: Earl Aubec and Other Stories (a collection of 33 short stories, only the first of which features Earl Aubec) [Earl Aubec and others]
Vol. 15: Count Brass [all three stories with Dorian Hawkmoon; set after the "Swords" books]
Count Brass
The Champion of Garathorm [also Ilian of Garathorm]
The Quest for Tanelorn [also Erekosë, Corum, and Elric]
Jerry Cornelius[edit]
The New Nature of the Catastrophe (This volume was included in the British edition of the Eternal Champion sequence, but left out of the US edition. It is a collection of Cornelius short stories, including several written by authors besides Moorcock.)
The Cornelius Quartet (originally titled The Cornelius Chronicles)
The Final Programme
A Cure for Cancer
The English Assassin
The Condition of Muzak
A Cornelius Calendar
The Adventures of Una Persson and Catherine Cornelius in the Twentieth Century
The Entropy Tango
"Gold Diggers of 1977" (a revision of The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle)
The Alchemist's Question
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Post by ineffableone on Oct 6, 2013 21:04:15 GMT
Don't let the huge list scare you, a lot of the books are quite short. Many were shorts published first in magazines.
Michael Moorecock was a musician first author second. His band Hawkwind is cited as one of the most influential bands in rock, and their list of albums is bigger than the list of books Moorecock wrote.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 20:40:18 GMT
Knever knew that Moorcock was in Hawkwind! Amazing, thanks!!!  |
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Post by ineffableone on Nov 25, 2013 21:56:50 GMT
Yep Moorcock was one of the main lyric writers for the band. Though he did not play with them through all their incarnations. Over 50 different musicians played with Hawkwind, including Lemmy of Motorhead fame. Moorcock was however quite active in the band even when he did not get credit for it. He is only attributed to being a guest vocalist in 1975 and 1981. From everything I have heard he was a lot more active than that. But typically more behind the scenes as a lyric writer. Moorcock had his own music project also, which recorded under the name Michael Moorcock & The Deep Fix.
Hawkwind's album The Chronicle of the Black Sword was largely based on the Elric novels.
Moorcock also wrote the lyrics to three tracks for Blue Oyster Cult "Black Blade", obviously referring to the sword Stormbringer in the Elric books.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 6:48:17 GMT
Yeah the lyrics and story stuff i did know; but not the musician stuff!
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Post by MOK on Nov 26, 2013 7:01:43 GMT
The others being "Veteran of the Psychic Wars" (which may or may not be about Elric) and "The Great Sun Jester".
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