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Post by Reaver on Jan 23, 2013 22:10:36 GMT
Okay guys, This is more idle speculation than anything else, but I'm curious if any of you guys have heard of functional finger claw knives either in historical use or modern production. I don't mean like the indian tiger claws. Think more of... a gauntlet, where the fingers flatten to blades once they reach the last joint. The closest internet searches have turned up are Freddy Kruger's gloves which, while interesting, don't seem very practical.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Jan 23, 2013 22:18:08 GMT
Nothing along that line exists historically as far as I know.
About the only modern stuff like this that you can find are probably going to be cheap stainless 'finger knife' or 'finger armor' ring thingummies for black metal, goth, pagan whatever types. Sorry.
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Post by Reaver on Jan 23, 2013 22:35:56 GMT
that's unfortunate. Think of how interesting and practical having an articulated gauntlet with short knives for the last finger joint would be. Seems similar to a karambit in a way, where it would allow for much more instinctive and natural attacks than other blade types. much more primal and aggressive.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Jan 23, 2013 22:46:58 GMT
Imagine getting that gauntlet pushed back into your face should you get into a grapple, though...
Also, you'd not be able to make an effective fist should you need to punch the other guy. There's a reason the bagh-nakh was made as a simple set of claws that could be dropped when need be.
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Post by oolong dao on Jan 23, 2013 22:54:52 GMT
i remember watch a video called how to make a gauntlet armor tutorial, he ends up with some Witch-king claws.
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Post by ninjedi on Jan 24, 2013 15:30:48 GMT
how about a kakute ring? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KakuteI have also heard suggestions of putting a thumbtack on your finger with a band-aid. Just don't forget to take it off when you poop/wipe.
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Post by MOK on Jan 24, 2013 17:13:05 GMT
Yeah, but each blade would have the strength of a single finger behind it. More than anything else, unless you're a master of Sinanju, it'd be a great way to break your fingers...
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Post by Reaver on Jan 25, 2013 4:31:19 GMT
Not neccesarily. the nice thing about having this as a gauntlet is that the fingers can be constructed so as to prevent unnatural motion, such as being bent backwards or sideways to the breaking point. besides as a rock climber, I can attest to the fact that individual fingers can be held rigidly enough to withstand the force of a blow.
the power of the blow would come from the shoulders, triceps and forearms anyway. all the fingers have to do is stay rigid.
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Post by haubrichw on Jan 28, 2013 4:55:51 GMT
I think the risks outweigh the benefits.
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Post by KentsOkay on Jan 28, 2013 5:34:24 GMT
Seen the new Conan?
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Post by haubrichw on Jan 28, 2013 5:47:16 GMT
i think i found an item thats similar in a kind of way would you consider a scissors katar i am not sure if they were every used but i will find out and it has more benefits then risks think of it you can let it go if it becomes a danger and its not attached to your fingers.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Jan 28, 2013 22:49:29 GMT
Scissors katar are a toy souvenir, pure and simple, made for the tourist trade in great numbers. Just think about the action; if you thrust with them open, they'd be liable to lock open. The mechanism just isn't really strong enough to take a straight-up impact. A plain katar would be much better.
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Post by MOK on Jan 29, 2013 2:36:01 GMT
They way I hear it, the idea is to stab a guy and then open the blades inside him, or possibly to use the spread blades for parrying and binding. Not that either notion is any more realistic, mind...
In any case, it's more of a curiosity than a serious weapon, just like the springblade parrying daggers and combination gun-swords you often see in European trophy collections.
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Post by haubrichw on Jan 29, 2013 6:48:31 GMT
ya sorry my bad but a katar would kind of be what he might be looking for wouldent u say. :oops:
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Post by freq on Feb 1, 2013 13:11:26 GMT
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Post by MOK on Feb 1, 2013 19:48:30 GMT
I could be wrong, but I'll be amazed if that's more than ten years "ancient"... In any case, on a closer look it seems to me it doesn't actually have blades on the fingers. The outermost segments are simply open on the underside - halfpipes, so to speak - and shaped to vaguely resemble eagle talons.
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