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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2008 4:23:30 GMT
great looking sword but... the holes totally ruin it for me.
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Post by randomnobody on Jan 8, 2008 4:47:04 GMT
I actually rather like the cutouts. They add a very artistic flair to the whole thing. I'd certainly buy a reproduction of this sword from one of our more renowned sub-$300 manufacturers. I'm not sure I'd trust Windlass with it just yet, and Gen2 may have some difficulty (They're getting better every day, and I commend them for their efforts), but somebody like Darksword might be a safe bet, if they can keep the weight down. Heck, I'd even shell out a bit more if Angus Trim put out something similar to this, even if this particular sword type isn't my favorite, it still looks quite good, and I imagine would handle nicely, and probably could do a fair bit of cutting. Everybody's calling it a rapier, but it looks a tad wider to me, but what the heck, a fine cut-and-thrust I'm sure this would be. I'd buy one, and use it. That is, if it were decently reproduced for $300 or less, up to perhaps $450-500 if Mr. Trim made one. I wonder if he has those facilities...can his mills do cutouts, and could he be bothered to do such a complex hilt? Hmm... Anyway, I could never afford this guy, 4,000 EUROS? That's coming up on $6,000 USD. Ouch. ![:(](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/sad.png)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2008 15:14:00 GMT
This is a custom sword, not a production piece. Time, research, skill, materials—it all adds up. This is the most stunning reproduction I have ever seen and it is well worth the price if one has the money to spend. Barta’s waiting list is over 2 years long for a good reason. IMO, he is simply the best. This rapier could be confused with an original and would not look out of place in a museum.
Maybe a production sword manufacturer could produce something that roughly looked like this sword (maybe A&A, but not a sub $300 maker), but they would not be able to replicate it in the detail that is seen on the Barta sword--especially the intricate work on the hilt.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2008 15:47:40 GMT
I agree John,it is well worth far more then the price he is asking. Something like this could only increase in value, if well cared for.
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Post by randomnobody on Jan 8, 2008 18:36:09 GMT
Oh, I definitely agree that it is well worth the price and more, and understand and appreciate completely what went into it. All I said is that I could never afford six grand to pay for it, BUT should some production manufacturer feel so bold as to release a SIMILAR sword, doesn't need to be as fancy, could cut back on the cutouts, cheapen up the materials, I'd be MORE COMFORTABLE spending on it. I wasn't trying to put any of this down at all, I know better than that. ![;)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) If I was insanely rich I'd buy him out and then some.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 8, 2008 20:18:28 GMT
it looks more like an ornate main sword (missing link between rapier and broad sword)and the viking pix where a let down no blade like a pg 13 movie they keep promiseing and never show the boobies
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2008 6:29:01 GMT
I actually rather like the cutouts...... ![:(](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) Cutouts is what they are, indeed, not holes. They do not go all the way through the blade. Note that you cannot see the background fabric through them. That is one bloody beautiful piece of work! I am in awe. *sigh*
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2008 14:39:00 GMT
I actually rather like the cutouts...... ![:(](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) Cutouts is what they are, indeed, not holes. They do not go all the way through the blade. Note that you cannot see the background fabric through them. That is one bloody beautiful piece of work! I am in awe. *sigh* If you enlarge the photo you can see that the blade is pierced, and that the “holes” do go through the entire blade. This was not an uncommon practice historically, but is not often seen on replicas.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2008 14:57:17 GMT
The other thing is that they pierced swords and knives to reduce the weight but still have the integrity and the inherent strength. Especially if you look at some of the cut out knives in modern knives these days you will find that their purpose and strength is not affected.
The schiavona on his web page is simply beautiful, although if I were going to spend this much I would probably get salamander armoury to make me a custom scimitar or something. Still great work if a little gaudy for my taste.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2008 0:58:10 GMT
Cutouts is what they are, indeed, not holes. They do not go all the way through the blade. Note that you cannot see the background fabric through them. That is one bloody beautiful piece of work! I am in awe. *sigh* If you enlarge the photo you can see that the blade is pierced, and that the “holes” do go through the entire blade. This was not an uncommon practice historically, but is not often seen on replicas. Jonathan I stand corrected! I loaded the pic into PhotoShop for a really good look and, yes, the weave of the cloth is visible through the holes, although not exactly easy to see. Thank you!
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