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Post by Lord Cobol on Dec 12, 2012 7:19:30 GMT
Doing the homework for a possible future purchase of a jian with pretty blade - folded steel & DH.
Then the question is whether to also pay extra for sanmai. That would depend on whether it would improve the look, effect on hardness/toughness/durability, and whether it might increase the chance of defects.
Any ideas? Anybody have any pics to show the effect of sanmai compared to plain-old folding and differential hardening?
In case it matters, the vendor would probably be Jin-shi, or possibly Sinosword.
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Post by Taran on Dec 12, 2012 9:44:47 GMT
It is another level of complication requiring more skill to successfully complete. So, yes, it does increase the chance of defects. It is entirely a question on the skill level of your swordsmith.
The combo of folded And sanmai for looks, though... Which part will be folded? Or will all parts? The fold patterns will be different on each separate folded piece then forge-welding them together (the lamination or "San Mai").
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Dec 13, 2012 3:00:30 GMT
Sanmai with high-carbon centre and folded sides is effective and attractive (if done well). My most expensive steel (in terms of $/inch) is done this way - kitchen knives. I think it's better than folding and differential hardening, but depending on the centre steel, can leave you with a more brittle edge (but harder). I'm not a fan of having visibly folded steel along the edge.
The visible difference between sanmai+folded and all-folded is that the folds disappear close to the edge. I like it, and prefer it over a gaudy (i.e., acid enhanced or polishing-enhanced) hamon.
Sanmai adds an extra step where things can go wrong, but the heat treatment can be simpler, saving a step where something can go wrong. Of course, you can differentially harden a sanmai blade.
In my experience, modern Chinese sanmai sword blades aren't super-hard, so aren't too brittle. One of mine suffered a little edge damage from hitting the steel support of my cutting stand, but was easy to fix.
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