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Post by dirtydan on Dec 4, 2012 5:05:15 GMT
Does anyone have any experience with the new CS Spadroon? The 2.2oz weight sounds attractive, but with such a long blade I'm concerned about the POB being too far out. If it had enough distal taper it would be fine, but who knows with CS...
Anyone have an idea where it's being sourced from? Looks like Windlass to me.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Dec 15, 2012 14:26:04 GMT
Guess there is no first hand experience with this one. Ryan said he has the Spadroon but hasn't got round to posting.
I looked at the CS press material. Nice looking, but the blade seems too refined to be a military caste spadroon. Don't know that for a fact not being able to handle it myself.
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Post by Jack Tar on Dec 28, 2012 0:03:05 GMT
In case anyone's feeling adventurous, United Outdoors has these for sale on Ebay for $219.99 with free shipping. www.ebay.com/itm/190752512400?ss ... 1423.l2649 I've purchased items from them before and I can't speak highly enough of them, if that means anything to anyone. |
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Post by Cole Chang on Jun 25, 2013 18:14:29 GMT
I'm glad I wasn't the only one curious about this sword! Anyway, I still can't find a review but I finally had a chance to see this sword in person today. Quick note, I'm not an expert, and I think my sword collecting days may be done.
Anyway, my first thought as soon as I opened the box at my local retailer was "wow, this thing is thin!" I don't know why but the CS pics and videos make it look wider. The hilt was still in a plastic wrap but it felt very comfortable in my small hands. It seemed a bit long, but I guess that is for different gripping options.
I can't tell the geometry of the blade but it is not diamond. The first third from the hilt is single edged but dull. The blade doesn't get sharp until midway. The tip is double edged and is sharp on the back side.
The blade is pretty flexible, like a rapier. Reminds me of the CS colichemarde.
If my collecting days weren't numbered,I would've bought this in a heartbeat!
Cole
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Jun 26, 2013 14:19:46 GMT
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Jun 26, 2013 21:11:44 GMT
If you're crazy about etymology and/or classification, I urge you to check out the VikingSword link. There's some really good discussion amongst Jim McDougall, Glen Cleeton and some other folks about where the term spadroon could have come from, and the issue of straight sabers, and when a short sword is a dirk or a short sword.
I had been tempted, before I got further into the Vikingsword link, to throw out the question of classification as well. What, after all, is a spadroon? If we use the blade as a basis, couldn't one argue that some of the lighter, later cavalry sabers would qualify? (1-1.2" blade width, backsword, sharpened false edge?)
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Post by randomnobody on Jun 26, 2013 23:17:52 GMT
I know nothing of this type but have heard the word numerous times and thought to check this thread out and see what sort of discussion was going. I see yet another fantastic thread from the viking sword forums that will seemingly teach me more than I ever wanted to know. Great link, that. I really oughta sign up over there and see how lively it is... They keep coming up in searches for various things that have taken my fancy of late and there is much to read and see there. ...back to CS, I'm surprised you note the blade as thin. That seems quite against what we've come to expect of Cold Steel, but definitely sounds like windlass. Ii recall a few of their swords were from the same source(s), so maybe this one is among them. Someone should snag one and have a go, for science.  |
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Jun 26, 2013 23:36:44 GMT
Somehow I managed to skip over this part. Couldn't say for sure, but my best guess would be Windlass, although some CS blades smack rather of WEI/Universal somehow.
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Post by Cole Chang on Sept 29, 2013 1:00:52 GMT
I have read that the Windlass 1840 NCO Sword has a tendency for having the hilt come loose. Anyone else here have read that?
Thanks!
Cole
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Post by Onimusha on Sept 29, 2013 3:47:25 GMT
Universal swords has a spadroon that looks just like the CS.
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Post by Uhlan on Sept 29, 2013 8:30:53 GMT
My turn off with Universal Swords and surely with Weapon Edge is the fact that they tend to be rather raw in the hilt work. Lots of blowholes, lots if clumsy filing, royal cyphers that are a mess and so on. Universal seems to do an effort to do the distal taper right as of late, see the stats on their sabres at KOA and Dave did this excellent review: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=18455 so, Universal is learning fast is my impression. Coldsteel uses Windlass, but with lots more attention to detail. The blades are just that little bit better finished, also the hilt parts. The whole package is put together under much strickter ( Coldsteel) rules and that is what you pay for, at least this is my impression. So, if one can affort it and fit and finish is important, go with Coldsteel. Universal can be very good, but also a dissapointment. Looking at how Universal did the hilt of their Spadroon at KOA, a big mess in my opinion, I say go for Coldsteel. Also the CS blades are quite constant in quality, (Windlass tempering), while Universal is more hit or miss. Quite a lot cheaper though and sometimes one gets a very good sword, see dave's review, for very little money. |
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