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Post by aussie-rabbit on Dec 3, 2012 3:41:56 GMT
Came across this while rummaging in Ebay - www.knifesbladesknives.com/swords/sword-polish' After the big story - Not the cleanest blade in town - But it's just $178 right ? What if you want a better one ? Well you can have a much nicer blade for a little more money - $197 will get you this one.. First to spot the difference gets a point. :lol:
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Post by Springs on Dec 3, 2012 3:57:29 GMT
Um...one has a really dirty looking blade and furniture, the other doesn't?
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Dec 3, 2012 4:00:42 GMT
Fail....next!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2012 4:15:36 GMT
They have the same serial number... :?
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Dec 3, 2012 5:42:25 GMT
Ding! yes! same sword, as it was cleaned they took another set of pics with a new price added, so there appears to be several swords but in reality there is only one!
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Post by Springs on Dec 3, 2012 5:55:47 GMT
They have quite a lot of them up for sale though - a lot of SLO's too.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Dec 3, 2012 14:37:41 GMT
Of the 9 listed 8 have the same serial :lol:
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Dec 3, 2012 21:49:37 GMT
That's awesome. I was going to say the langets look like a terrible solder job. Wait till Dave sees this, he'll go ballistic.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 2:17:51 GMT
Thanks aussie, I'll claim my +1 karma points if you'll be so kind, thanks! :lol:
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Dec 5, 2012 0:24:11 GMT
A premature conclusion, I think. They are quite capable of making a batch of blades and stamping them with the same serial number. Same serial number doesn't mean anything on modern-made replicas. Look to see whether or not the same casting flaws and dings are on the guards, and then decide if they are the same swords.
If it is the same sword, the cleaner pics are probably taken first. They don't clean them; they dirty them to make them look older.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Dec 5, 2012 8:55:34 GMT
Done
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Post by Dave Kelly on Dec 5, 2012 10:37:59 GMT
The photos say "Chinatown Antiquer". Ya really gonna buy a Polish Sabre from China.
The Russians are offering them at 2500 a pop. Ya gonna buy one of them?
If it ain't from a polish smithy I'd stay the heck away from either.
The sick collector line is like getting the email from Ghana offering to let you money launder the king's fortune he needs to illegally get out of country if you will just front them $10,000 to grease some palms.... :roll:
You get what you pay for...screwed. :mrgreen:
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Dec 6, 2012 16:23:42 GMT
I would not buy a Polish sabre from Poland either ! however it is interesting just how far these people go to fleece the unsuspecting
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Post by Madmartigen on Dec 8, 2012 6:14:27 GMT
I am more than curious - why?
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Dec 8, 2012 13:53:04 GMT
Simply, I don't collect military sabres I put this thread up to show the lengths some people will go to to fleece the public.
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Post by Madmartigen on Dec 8, 2012 14:41:57 GMT
Oh I see . Also after thinking on it a bit, I wouldn't buy a katana from Japan either - but that's a bit OT here .
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Dec 8, 2012 15:23:39 GMT
You can only buy Iaido not live blades from Japan.
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Post by Madmartigen on Dec 8, 2012 15:32:09 GMT
Really? Didn't know that.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Dec 10, 2012 5:44:27 GMT
Here is some info - like all things there are exceptions In order to legally own a sword in Japan it has to be registered in accordance with the Ju-tô-hô (Japanese Firearms and Sword Law). This applies to both antique and newly made swords (Shinsakutô). Exempted are blades under 13 cm (5.1 inches) that have no Mekugi-ana (peg hole), and Iaitô / Mogitô (training and decorative swords made from a zinc-aluminum alloy that can't be sharpened). The certificate / license issued - Juhô-tôken-rui-tôrokushô (in short "Tôrokushô") - has to stay with the sword at all times. Most collectors attach it to the Shirasaya-bukoro or Koshirae-bukoro (storage bags). It's the blade that is registered, not the owner; however, the Prefectural Education Board (Kyôiku-inkai) has to be notified within 20 days if there is a change of ownership. Licensing is done by the Prefectural Education Board during a Shinsa (evaluation). The judges conducting the Shinsa are sword experts contracted by the Education Board, usually senior members of the local NBTHK branch (Nippon Bijutsu Tôken Hozon Kyôkai = Society for the preservation of the Japanese Art Sword). It should be noted that the Tôrokushô is not a certificate of authenticity; only the measurements, number of Mekugi-ana etc. and the Mei (name inscribed) are stated, whether it's authentic (Shôshin) or false (Gimei). Only traditionally made Nihontô can be licensed, i.e. swords made from Tamahagane (a special kind of steel). This means in effect that it has to be either an antique or made by a contemporary, licensed smith. Mass produced WWII swords (so called Shôwatô) and foreign made swords are not eligible for Tôrokushô. There is a lot more here dating from 2003 AFAIK the laws are now tighter, YMMV www.swordforum.com/forums/showth ... rd-laws&s=
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