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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2007 13:03:28 GMT
I have a question about 2 swords and i was hoping you guys could, as the kids say, drop a little knowledge on me. What are the differences between the 12 century medieval sword and the black prince (both by gen2 but not specifically those swords but rather there styles). I mean the black prince has a very defined point so i assume that it is a thrusting sword that can also be used cutting. Thats about it as far as i can tell, my ignorance is once again shinning through, but what are other difference, like use in combat, how it is handled and held (2 hands vs 1 hand) or anything else that someone could point out. Any and info that you guys can share would be very much appreciated. Thanks
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Post by septofclansinclair on Aug 30, 2007 14:31:16 GMT
I can't seem to find the 12th century medieval sword you mentioned. Are you referring to the Norman sword?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2007 15:16:29 GMT
Funny enough, the 12th century sword is actually what the Norman sword is listed as on several sites, including AoV and Imperial weapons. You're right, the black prince is much more suited to the thrust (as designed), but Gen2 has turned it into an awesome cutter, as you can see from the test videos. The 12th cen is much more cut-oriented, but still has a useable point. My best guess is due to the weight and point-of-balances, the black prince would be used more like the longsword techniques in Talhoffer's book (which you should get if you don't have it already!!), emphasizing quick manuvering in a more one-on-one duel style, whereas the 12th cen seems more of a dedicated war sword, probably used single-handed with a shield and/or on horseback. The handle is long enough to use it hand-and-a-half, but it would be more unwieldy than the black prince. Really, both are made wonderfully, so it's just a matter of personal preference. I was actually looking at the 12th cen myself, planning to make a kite-shield to accompany it. Sword and shield is cool...
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Post by YlliwCir on Aug 30, 2007 17:19:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2007 3:36:56 GMT
Ah, good point. I was thinking of the review posted on the main site, where what is apparently the 12th cen is reviewed as the Norman sword. Sorry for the confusion. I, too, was looking carefully at the Norman on AoV. Under 2 lb. weight? Sounds like an amazing handling sword, if not the best cutter in the world. Then again, this is Gen2...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2007 9:12:14 GMT
Hey I would contact AoV before ordering that smaller one. All of the specs match the blunt one at the Gen2 site. I believe that the 12th century they list is the larger sharp one and the Norman is the slightly smaller blunt. I know it has the info about the test but I have seen that pasted in even one the blunt ones on several site selling Gen2
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Post by YlliwCir on Sept 13, 2007 9:47:39 GMT
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Post by ShooterMike on Sept 13, 2007 18:46:18 GMT
The nomenclature is a little confusing, as there are two sharp Norman swords that Imperial Weapons sells. One is now called the 12th Century Sword, that used to be called the "12th Century Norman Sword" when I got my two of them reviewed here and the original discussed related to shortening the blade here. The other is the Norman Medieval Sword in the ProSword line. They look quite a bit alike but are actually VERY different. Hope this info helps. ![:)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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