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Post by Metallus on Oct 6, 2012 7:02:03 GMT
I contacted Deltin producers and asked informations about the Scottish Claymore www.deltin.net/2163.htm I got answered that the steel used is a 6150 and it's tempered by them. I also received a picture of the tang i48.tinypic.com/34gawjr.jpg . The price would be 466€ + 15€ delivery but, since it's not in stock, the order would amount to 530€ and it'd take 2 months to arrive. Now, the blade is even dull and, at the very best, i should sharpen it by myself without having any experience in sharpening with the possibility to ruin/screw it. Is it worth it or should i stick to the raptor/tenchi katana and give up on these big swords? Thanks
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Post by Alfacentori on Oct 6, 2012 7:18:16 GMT
If I was going to buy a Del Tin I would buy it through someone like Kult of Athena, since they can sharpen it, and by all accounts their sharpening service is not to bad.
Or is buying from outside of Europe not an option?
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Post by Metallus on Oct 6, 2012 7:40:37 GMT
It is not an option, sadly: laws forbid it even to the manufacturers (therefore to Deltin too).
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Oct 6, 2012 8:57:27 GMT
Well it's really hard to say, as it will be what you decide.
A fellow member here Filippo (Kittenslayer) is in Italy and he has an amazing collection of European swords. I would recommend contacting him by PM, and asking advice about getting swords into Italy. He could probably give the best guidance that I can think of.
As I'm not that familiar with laws in Italy, I can only make educated guesses on things. But sharpening will cost, how much it will cost will depend on the quality of the sharpening. Unfortunately I do not know that many people who would sharpen a production sword in Europe (there are few though), but again you would need to send the sword out of Italy, as the only polisher I know in Italy only polishes antique Japanese swords...
Hopefully some Italian forumites can shed a light and give better answers to your questions. I'm just puzzled if the katana can be sold sharp but the European sword can only be sold as blunt? I know by my talk with one Italian vendor of modern production katana, that they have to be sold blunt due to Italian sword laws. Don't know if this will affect to Paul Chens & Chenesses.
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Post by Metallus on Oct 6, 2012 10:02:52 GMT
I had contacted the manufacturer i had decided to buy a raptor from and he told me that the katana is sharpened. However, when i visited this other manufacturer (Deltin) website, i read that all their swords are blunt.
Now, i don't really know how much legal it is (I mean, some manufacturers say that they can't sell sharpened swords in general while others say that they can't sell sharpened double-edged swords but it's okay for sharpened single-edged ones), but if sharpening them by myself (which i guess isn't that legal) wouldn't screw much the blade, and if the cost of this blade isn't that high, considering the item, then i might even go for it.
HOWEVER, if sharpening it by myself would semprini it up and if it's overpriced anyways, i'm obviously not going to purchase it.
Sending the item outside of Italy is unreasonable; it might even be able to go outside of Italy, but it won't be able to return (because it will be sharpened and therefore will have turned into a white weapon and will get blocked at the frontier).
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Post by Dr. Whom on Oct 6, 2012 10:58:56 GMT
Like others have said, I would contact Kittenslayer for advice. He may even have some swords he is willing to sell you
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Post by VPanovec on Oct 6, 2012 23:26:28 GMT
I dont own any Del Tin swords, but the picture of the tang they sent you isnt even that claymore, which concerns me a little, unless those two swords just happen to use the same blade. A claymore does not have to be terribly sharp, Weight and Momentum are usually enough, but sharpening it wouldnt hurt. I have one that isnt especially sharp (Not Deltin though) and it'll cut typical targets, although i cant remember if I've tested it on tatami or not. Anyway I hope that helps a little.
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Post by William Swiger on Oct 7, 2012 8:58:06 GMT
Have not seen Kittenslayer on the forum for awhile. Maybe the Italian cops got him. :-(
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Post by 14thforsaken on Oct 7, 2012 9:16:50 GMT
One thing to consider is to find a cheap blade you can legally get where you are and learn how to sharpen it yourself. It's really not that hard, there are plenty of tutorials on from using a belt sander to sandpaper to stones to metal files etc. It always a good thing to be able to sharpen your on blade or give it a touch up because at some point you will and when that happens, its nice to know you can.
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Post by Talon on Oct 7, 2012 11:26:18 GMT
if you get your sword shipped from another european country it bypasses the italian customs and goes straight to your door ,i've done this for another sbg member and thats how he gets his sharp swords into italy,not that im advocating that you do that of course
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Oct 8, 2012 3:25:46 GMT
So which country would be the most ideal for the OP ?
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Post by Talon on Oct 8, 2012 3:55:30 GMT
i would imagine any country in the eu should be fine to post to the op,i know for a fact england is fine and also germany,but as jussi said in the two katana's thread the eu has free trade so as long as the sword goes to italy from another european country it should go straight to the op's door,that's the theory anyway
kittenslayer would be the man to talk to though he hasn't been on for awhile so the gendarmes may have got him,though it's equally probable that he's shacked up with a couple of italian supermodels :lol:
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Oct 8, 2012 10:47:08 GMT
Or on some sandy beach, no wait it's autumn over there, sipping wine in the hills?
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