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Post by bagwa123 on Sept 28, 2012 1:30:55 GMT
Hi this is my first contact with you all. i am a beginner in sword collecting mainly katanas this is my choice of weapon.
i am a sub $ 300 collector with a goal of owning one half decenct katana around the$3000 mark.
I have several swords now with my latest purchase of a ronin katana dojo pro kokatana i was a little disappointed with this
what im asking is advice on a katana where im going to spend my hard earned cash on. i heard of L6 steel, and so on i know its not just down to the steel but who makes it and its forging process . can someone help me with the elimination process of finding either a swordsmith that will custom make a katana that is a heavy duty cutter or a manufacter of the highest standard that wont cost me morethan $3000 therabouts. thanks :?
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Sept 28, 2012 4:19:43 GMT
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Sept 28, 2012 5:56:14 GMT
There are any number of great bladesmiths - many spoken about here on the forum.
For steels consider S600, 9260 and 4340
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Post by bagwa123 on Sept 28, 2012 8:05:27 GMT
thankyou this has been most helpful i guess i have alot to learn. although i do have plenty of time, cheers.
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Post by Dr. Whom on Sept 28, 2012 10:44:43 GMT
In my opinon, you should not need to spend $3000 for a heavy cutter. I know I would not want to cut and scratch a $3000 blade
I would check out Hung Shing True Sharp (HSTS) as they use TH CPM3V steel (Rk2 series) or DH tamagahane based alloy (Budo series) in their blades. These are specifically designed for performance cutting and you can always customize the fittings(I like the iron fittings and the Nubuck Tsuka that I have)
I also like the Hanwei Shobu Raptor with TH 5160 Spring Steel although it comes with cheap non-iron fittings and you will need to get the Tsuka reshaped and rewrapped. I think this is the best cutting sword under $250 IMO(you might still be able to find it for that price)
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Sept 29, 2012 8:27:58 GMT
Neither would I, but I once pulled a Range Rover Vogue out of a particularly difficult bog, when I asked why he would put a $80,000 (prob. $120,000 now) vehicle in such terrain he said "I bought a 4 wheel drive to go 4 wheel driving not shopping" - really couldn't argue with that  |
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Post by bagwa123 on Sept 30, 2012 9:57:28 GMT
thanks you are all very helpful. finding the right sword is challanging and cost is always an issue. i checked out a howard clarck sword yesterday. way out of my price range i will check out (HSTS), I just purchased a chikara from GG half price 2nds i think there called a scratch and dent sale this has a good reveiw on SBG and is made of 5160 it will arrive next week not my sword of heaven but will do till my next purchase, ? is it just me or is this sub $300 sword collecting addictive because as soon as i get enough money i have a new sword must be the honeymoon period.
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Post by Taran on Sept 30, 2012 10:28:47 GMT
I think you guys are taking his "$3,000" a little too seriously. He's a new guy to swords and I am sure that he has been told he has to spend that much on a blade made in Japan (I forget what those are called) to get any quality.
What is your actual preferred price-range, bagwa? How much are you comfortable with spending? That is going to help get you better advice. Finding the best blade in a given range is something the guys here do very well.
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Post by bagwa123 on Sept 30, 2012 10:49:54 GMT
as little as possible. between $200 and a $1000 mark although i just had a look at HSTS who are all sold out but thats the kind of sword im looking for a heavy duty workhorse. im keen on katanas although next year i would like to get some midevil swords maybe a gross messer?
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Post by Dr. Whom on Sept 30, 2012 16:26:22 GMT
And then you will quickly realize that you need to upgrade to better things and become a buy/sell sword recycler That is a good deal...Please let us know how bad the blade is marked and how sharp...I may need to get one myself as I like 5160 spring steel. |
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Post by Kuya on Oct 9, 2012 2:58:51 GMT
I don't want to start a new topic, since we have this "steel topic" here already.
I've read other guides and the stuff from the main site, and seen the topic of steels discussed already, but I would like to know if any of you with long term cutting experience know just how much cutting of relatively soft targets a 1050-1060 TH steel blade can go before losing its edge? I know that they're generally ~50-58 HRC, right? By soft targets, I mean mats and soda/water (not Gatorade/Powerade/Detergent) bottles.
I remember from discussions that a TH blade won't last so long if you keep chopping up bamboo and other hard targets, but shouldn't soft targets not really dull the blade? I saw the crazy Cold Steel video of their 1055 TH doing a marathon cutting session and kept cutting through hundreds of cuts and all sorts of targets... but we all know that was a marketing video and they could have used an "enhanced" (i.e. the one in the batch with the highest tested HRC) version of the sword. So I would like to know from people who have had long term 1050-1060 TH swords, and cut with them, for a long time, how long their edges last?
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Oct 9, 2012 3:35:14 GMT
There is no hard and fast rule, however not only is there a large difference between 50 and 58 HRC the steel properties come in to play. Vis. "As an example to clarify the behavior of two steels of different levels of the ability to harden, consider two short pieces of bar of 25 mm (~1 inch) diameter, with the same carbon content, say 0.60%C. The first steel called 1060 has no other alloying element besides carbon. The second steel, known as 5160, includes also 0.8% chromium besides carbon. If both bars are quenched in agitated oil from the austenitic structure for both steels, existing at the temperature of about 850 °C (1560 °F), the surface hardness of both bars will be found equal, at about 64 HRC (Hardness, Rockwell, scale C). However upon sectioning both bars, the hardness at the center will be found: for 1060 steel, about 40 HRC (low hardenability) for 5160 steel, about 63 HRC (high hardenability). In summary, the steel with higher hardenability hardens (or forms martensite), not only at the surface, but throughout the section of the specimen where the cooling rate is slower than on the surface." There is a lot more info on this page www.welding-advisers.com/Hardenability.html |
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Post by bagwa123 on Oct 20, 2012 10:29:11 GMT
Giday fellow sword hoarders, got my chikara 2nds 9 days ago and was very impressed considering i paid half price and free shipping. it came in a loverly wooden box and all the trimmings.
once unsheathed it took me not to long to see a 3mm scratch one the kissaki, had to angle the blade to see it properly, this was quite exceptional and i have got used to it my mate was a champion axeman and is going to show me how to get it out. the sharpness of this blade blew me away, i have a ronin dojo pro and my chikara left it for dead it took the hairs off my arm straight out of the box, pretty cool. did some test cuts withit and it shreaded everything i put in front of it plastic bottles pool noodles and one inch dried bamboo i got a bit cocky with it today as i needed to cut something and filled some water bottles up 2litre ones after half a dozen i decided to cut with one hand my first time with my chikara
it went well the first time so i tried it again i place my victims on a 10inch wide one metre high piece of blood wood stump and if you know your wood then this wood is almost hard as tempered steel!
well i missed my victim and took out a 2 inch long by 1/2inch wide piece of blood wood from my stump HS my blade i checked it not even a mark no chips nothing a bit of glue from the bottles thats all this is my new favourite sword i cut one my bottle in thanks wiped it clean it was a clean cut through this piece of timber this sword is sharp scary sharp.
i dont think i want to do this again but i least now know that 5160 spring steel is good
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