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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 16:42:49 GMT
There is a dojo starting up here in Altus, OKlahoma that teaches JinGum Swordsmanship, anyone know the how this differers from the Japanese Iaido or Iai Batto Do? I don't know anything about Korean Arts or Swordsmanship! And is not a JinGum just a different name for a Katana? Thanks in advance for any help on this one!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 22:51:54 GMT
I beleive the name of the Korean sword art is sometimes called Haidong Gumdo. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haidong_GumdoHaidong Gumdo is significantly modified in style from standard kumdo, emphasizing what they consider a native Korean "battlefield" style of combat over the one-on-one dueling style found in standard or Daehan Kumdo. Different types of Korean swords are discussed here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_swordHaedong jingeom (해동진검; 海東剣) This literally means 'East Asian Practical Sword'. It is a newly used terminology that is used for today's practical Korean swords. An article with pictures of Korean swords including what they call Haidong Jingum (Real Sword) which is similar to a katana, but has some differences. www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t97038.htmlHere's a picture of a "Deluxe Haidong Jingum" from that site:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2008 0:06:48 GMT
The name I hear most Korean swords collectors use for Jingum is Ssong Soo do, Jingum tends to be used more by martial artists. Most historians say this style of sword was adapted during the Japanese occupation where many older swords where either destroyed or taken back to Japan. The majority of antiques are form this time but have seen a couple that where considerably older. Most of the antiques I have seen tend to be a bit shorter than a Katana with a very board shobu like geometry, also I have never seen any antiques that have a Kurikata on the Saya like a katana they generally have mounts similar to a Tachi. Most Korean swordsmanship schools use this type of sword, very few use any of the other configurations. I do not particle any Korean sword s arts currently but after reading some articles and dissuading them with some practitioners on SFI Korean sword arts tend to have maneuvers that are either circular or linier and can be applied to any style of sword. It probably sounds easier to describe it as they focus on the technique rather than any specific style of sword. If you are interested these are the Six main architectures of traditional Korean swords. SSON SOO DO Refers to the shorter variation of the Japanese Katana. GOM A straight double edged sword similar to the Chinese Jian, most antiques seem to be slightly more tip heavy than Chinese examples. KAL Roughly translates to knife, what we would call a knife or Tanto Koreans would cal a camp knife and use it as such. The Kal is more like a Wakizashi. TO A single edged saber which is similar in many ways to the Chinese goose quill saber. [http://www.swordsofkorea.com/sword_11a.jpg/img] WEOL DO Basically a smaller variation of the Chinese Kwan Dao, the length of the handle is six feet, four inches; the length of the blade is two feet, eight inches and the weight is three pounds fifteen ounces. HYUP DO The “sword spear” similar to a Naginata, they are all a bit different depending on which region they come from. AH DO While the average soldier might use a Sson Soo Do or To those who relied entirely upon their sword for battlefield defense preferred the ah do. Strictly a military weapon, it had a groove running the length of its 39 inch long blade for added strength. Both edges were sharpened near the tip, and the main cutting edge was sharpened its entire length. These more than anything are the basic shapes in some cases there a many variations on each style. There is very little information on Korean swords these days while I do not know much a bout the martial arts side I hope what little I know about the types was of some help to you. Just to find out this was Difficult and time consuming. I f you are interested you might want to pick yourself up a copy of the Muye Dobo Tong Ji which is an old military manual and describes many of the ancient swords and their uses. These links may also be of help: www.arscives.com/historysteel/korean.swordlist.htmwww.swordsofkorea.com/
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2008 11:37:23 GMT
Hi Alant & Musashi Thank you for your reply and some really good information on this. As I said before all I know is Japanese Swordsmanship, but it's always good to keep an open mind and see what you maybe able to pick up from other Arts. Thank you again for all the information and links! I guess I'll go by this week and check it out. I know most Korean styles are a little flashy, that's why I like Iaido and Iai Batto Do (one draw, two cuts, re-sheath and you're done with that battle. LOL Thanks again and the people on this Forum are super!! Will let you know what I find out after my visit.
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