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Post by PaxAddict on Sept 18, 2012 23:57:55 GMT
Hey guys! I wasn't sure if this belonged in the Asian Sword side, but decided to put it here, since it's a more modern sword, and almost certainly a military sword. So, I picked this up a few years back, don't recall the price, and now am looking to sell it, so I figured I'd try and get some help identifying it, and maybe get a price check once I know a bit more about it. From the outside, it appears to be a standard western saber, in the hilt and scabbard: But taking a closer look at the blade, it's pretty decidedly of more classic japanese style (even to my very ignorant eyes) Now, I'm not sure how well you can see, here, and I'm sorry about the pictures. Camera is down, and had to go with the phone for these. But it's a serial number stating 66172 And I'm certain you can't see here, there's two japanese symbols stamped into the blade. One at the left, near the guard, and one in the middle, about half an inch from the guard. Certainly, I recognize either of them, and can attempt better pictures another time, the lighting in this house is terrible and I'll have to try again when the sun is up Here's a closer shot of the hilt. Here's a shot of the rust (new since the last time I pulled her out of the closet. I am a terrible custodian.) Now, I've looked a bit into myself, and have seen some later WW2 infantry officer sabers that look like a fancy version of what I have here, with a few details askew. I'd like any information you can give me, so feel free to fire away. Thanks, folks!
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Sept 19, 2012 10:55:31 GMT
Unless I miss my guess, what you have there is an Imperial Japanese Type 32, which came about in the 32nd year of the Meiji Era, 1899.
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Post by PaxAddict on Sept 19, 2012 15:17:36 GMT
Got it on the first shot. I'm certain that's the type of sword. It even has a serial number only a few hundred off from mine.
Knowing it's designation (type 32) I checked around for prices, and there were some in significantly worse condition (hilt and grip degredation, as well as blade wear) but without the live rust going for 300-500 on eBay. Would you say this is an accurate going price for this piece? Would my piece be worth more, being in slightly better condition, despite the rust? Or would the rust bring it significantly below that price point?
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Post by Elheru Aran on Sept 19, 2012 15:19:55 GMT
Don't ask us. Have it professionally assessed with papers. This will help insure two things-- one, you know what the price *should* be for sure, and two, its value will be proven one way or another.
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Post by PaxAddict on Sept 19, 2012 15:51:19 GMT
Is there a name for the type of place that does this? Also, how expensive can I expect that sort of process to be?
Thanks, Jeff.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Sept 19, 2012 16:55:47 GMT
Now there you've got me Best I can do is suggest googling 'antique militaria appraisers' or something like that. I would expect that unless you find one nearby to you, you will probably have to foot the bill for shipping it back and forth, and the appraisal itself will cost more. I'd guess maybe $50-100, and that's not counting shipping. Might be worth it if you think you have a nice enough piece that you can recoup the cost of appraisal...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2012 17:34:58 GMT
Hard to hold my tongue in here but the sword is not worth paying for a "professional" appraisal. The sword is worth less than $200 wholesale (what an arms dealer might offer after too many drinks). When looking at Ebay and other listings, look for completed sales prices, not what they are listed at. Watch the market. While these have gone upward in value, a better example should not be hard to find at the $300 mark from a dealer. This sword has been scraped and over cleaned. It is missing the finger loop. Is the spring latch intact? These are still quite common and machine made. There is no real historical value aside from a sword of its type. There may be some passionate appeal that some may see real value in it and not a sword to dismiss out of hand but common, not terribly expensive and has issues of its own. Minty ones were traffiking at the $200 mark street prices (ebay) a decade ago.
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Post by PaxAddict on Sept 19, 2012 19:40:26 GMT
I was leaning against appraisal unless there was one local, and it happened to be pretty inexpensive. I just don't see myself making that money back. Spring latch, by the way, is not in tact. Also, Finger loop? I didn't see anything like this on other examples that I noted as missing on my own.
In any case, I was planning on attempting to sell it here, in the forums, and was looking at offering it at $250 shipped obo. I'm not overly concerned about getting every penny out of a potential buyer, and am more interested in making sure all parties get a fair deal. If this piece was in fact particularily rare, I was thinking I'd hold on to it, but it doesn't seem that's the case, and hold no sentiment to it one way or the other.
This'll fund my leatherworking tools! Then I can make scabbards!
Thanks for the words, Edelweiss.
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Post by Anders on Sept 20, 2012 18:11:00 GMT
I always liked the style of those sabers - more katanafied saber then westernized katana. Would love to get a chance to handle one sometime. Too bad I don't like antiques.
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