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Post by 8GatesTaiji on Sept 5, 2012 4:01:27 GMT
In May Kris Cutlery came out with a tradtional style jian with either a 27" or 28.5" blade, kriscutlery.com/documents/chinese.html. It has a folded steel blade, which Kris Cutlery wrote me back stating, that it uses 1060 and 9260 steels for it. It has a flat ground edge. With 1.6 lbs for the 27" and 2.0 lbs for the 28.5". Kris also states the blade is "pretty tough" and can be used for cutting. My question for anybody out there is, does anybody out there have any experience with this sword, and what do people think in general of this sword at the $250 price point? I'm looking for a shorter jian for indoor winter use, and for teaching in more confined surroundings. I would still like a sword I can at least do some light cutting practice. I'm just wondering if this sword would be a good buy for me. Thanks. |
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Post by Polarclaw on Sept 6, 2012 16:10:59 GMT
I can't speak for this sword in particular. But I can tell you that if I had 250 dollars. I would most certainly buy one. and here is a review of one of their earlier versions. forum.grtc.org/viewtopic.php?t=417 |
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Post by normanno on Sept 6, 2012 18:51:16 GMT
me too I'm in market for a cutting jian.
I don't know if I should choose this or the cold steel jian...what is the best jian?
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Post by 8GatesTaiji on Sept 6, 2012 20:12:04 GMT
Polarclaw, the Kris jian in that review is a much different one than the one I'm looking at. I believe that the jian in the review is made by Kris and that there have been a few generations since that particular model. I believe that the new jian is made by someone else, and this seems to be the first jian they've sold that has a fold steel blade. One of the things I'm hesitant about is if, at $250, a mono steel blade would be better than folded. I've heard that cheap folded blades can have flaws and imperfections that can make them more likely to break than mono steel. I guess my question is whether at $250 I can reasonably expect a sold folded steel blade without any major structural flaws.
Normanno, I already own the Rodell Cutting jian and the Tang Jian, both from Hanwei. I like both those swords, although the cutting jian is the far more practical one. I'm looking at the Kris sword because I teach and I want a shorter sword for teaching in places were space is tight. Idealy, I want to get one of the new Qing era jians from Jin Shi, when they come out.
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Post by Taran on Sept 6, 2012 20:19:50 GMT
Well, I know the CS Gim is a good blade and you can get it for the same price. Don't know anything about the KC one, though.
Jin-Shi has some decent prices for their blades and they are excellent cutters. I think those might cost a little more, though. Comparable to the Scott Rodell Cutter. Better quality for the price, but the same price.
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Post by Taran on Sept 6, 2012 20:21:21 GMT
Both Jin-Shi and Rodell are better than the CS Gim.
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Post by 8GatesTaiji on Sept 6, 2012 20:45:50 GMT
I guess my main thing is, because I teach and would be using this sword for teaching, would be if I could use this sword for a variety of a actives (including cutting) and reasonably expect a safe, solid folded steel sword at $250. I just don't have any experience with folded steel at any price point, and although I carry liability insurance, I'd rather not have to use it. What I do like about this sword is its shorter length and it's weight for teaching indoors.
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Post by Taran on Sept 6, 2012 21:02:14 GMT
Then you absolutely want to look into Jin-Shi. Best quality of monosteel or differential or twistcore and you can get a variety of lengths.
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Post by Kuya on Sept 6, 2012 22:38:12 GMT
If the KC Jian's folded steel's ability to survive is anywhere near their Kambun and 28 steel, it should be OK for cutting. Then again, I think the jians are made at a different forge than those other swords I mentioned.
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Post by Turok on Sept 9, 2012 2:38:28 GMT
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Post by normanno on Sept 10, 2012 9:44:40 GMT
Thank you all for your answer! I will contact Garrett Chan from jin-shi.
I'll post his answer!
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Post by Turok on Sept 12, 2012 4:47:44 GMT
That's a great idea! I know KC makes excellent katanas, but there are not a lot of reviews of their Chinese swords. I didn't like their older models because some of them are missing fittings for the scabbard and the hilts didn't match at all. They looked half-finished and incomplete. However it looks like KC has improved the quality of their Chinese swords lately, though some of their current models look too expensive IMHO!  |
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