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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2012 22:48:05 GMT
Hello, I'v recently had the urge to buy a sword and Iv been doing some research and Iv decided I want a Hand and a half sword that is historically accurate that can be used as it would have been used back in the day. Does anyone have any suggestions to a certain sword or sword maker/company? My budget at the moment is from $150-450 Also can anyone suggest a good book on how to use the sword? Im also interested in Norman/Viking swords... Also are there laws about carrying swords in public? Any help would be greatly appreciated Thanks Gunnar
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Post by SullivanSwitch on Aug 6, 2012 23:03:31 GMT
Well I can't help with euro - viking swords so much, but I can say that most states take issue with carrying swords in public. Check your local laws. Most states consider any knife over a certain size a weapon. Here in AR it is 3.5" I believe.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2012 23:38:44 GMT
I was just curious lol wasrnt planning on carrying Round in in public. But I'll deft tilt check out the laws. I'm in WA.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Aug 7, 2012 0:58:27 GMT
Historically accurate is going to be difficult in that price range; historically plausible is more likely. Your best bet if you want to stay under budget is the Hanwei Tinker Fullered Bastard. If you don't mind going over budget some (20-50$), then I'd go with any of the hand-and-a-halfs that strike your fancy from Angus Trim, which are viewable here at Tried & True Armory. They're not the most historically accurate, but I've never heard a bad word said against their performance, and that's what matters. Also, if you're interested in Viking/Norman swords, you can also take a look at the H/T Viking and Norman. As for books on how to use swords, Secrets of German Medieval Swordsmanship and Fighting with the German Longsword by Christian Henry Tobler is usually recommended, but they've both been out of print for several years and currently go for astronomical amounts. If you don't mind a DVD, I'd go with The Longsword of Johannes Liechtenauer Part I; I've only seen bits and pieces of it, but it's quality.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2012 2:59:04 GMT
Great thanks! I can go over budget leeway of about 70 I'll defiantly check out the DVD
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Post by chrisperoni on Aug 7, 2012 3:10:58 GMT
go for the Valiant Armoury Savoy Bastard Sword- I have one and it's awesome! Full sword, scabbard and belt for $416. You can choose custom colours for the leather, I think the shipping is free in USA (double check that), and if you want it peened it's an extra $50. www.customswordshoppe.com/shoppe ... ucts_id=67 edit- shipping is at least free if you order from the SBG Sword Store sbg-sword-store.sword-buyers-gui ... ct187.html but you can't pick colours if you order from SBG. Still, I think Sonny doesn't charge shipping inside USA...
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Post by Elheru Aran on Aug 7, 2012 4:55:47 GMT
If you want a decent piece that's based on an (AFAIK) existing historical sword, Hanwei's Hand and a Half, based on a piece associated with Albrecht II of the Holy Roman Empire, is a good sword for the money. The aesthetics aren't for everybody, but the blade is very good and I understand it handles and performs well.
Otherwise yeah, I'd go with Hanwei/Tinker's or the VA Savoy.
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Post by Don Boogie on Aug 7, 2012 12:10:27 GMT
If you want to go for a hand and a half sword type style, i suggest you go for(like elheru aran said) the Hanwei Albrecht II,or i can also recommend you the Generation 2 Black Prince sword,i beat the semprini out of it and it still in one piece:). I can also recommend you Valiant Armoury,i have the VA castile and the total package you get is good value(sword,scabbard and suspension belt). But if you want it all for a good price,go for Valiant Armoury Other than what the others are saying you can try out also the Hanwei Tinkerline to
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Post by chrisperoni on Aug 7, 2012 13:13:33 GMT
if it's just the sword you're looking for then I would go for an Angus Trim from TTA - as Vincent suggested.
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Post by Don Boogie on Aug 7, 2012 13:20:58 GMT
or he can pick up the kris cutlery teutonic sword,ugly scabbard but a fine sword most members say:p
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Post by MOK on Aug 7, 2012 13:46:05 GMT
Well, you can't really go wrong with anything at the SBG Sword Store. From personal experience I can recommend the Valiant Armoury "Kriegschwert" (which I own and love), the VA "Bastard Sword" and the Darksword Armoury "Black Prince Sword" (both of which I've handled and liked). I would also recommend these. Sigmund Ringeck's Knightly Art of the Longsword is a great book, including both the original German text and an English interpretation, plus additional notes and observations and consistently informative illustrations. And that 2-pack deal is just too good to miss!
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Post by ChrisA on Aug 7, 2012 15:01:15 GMT
Add my vote to the VA Savoy. You get a very, very nice scabbard and susupension as well as a good sword for an excellent price.
My second vote is for the Hanwei/Tinker bastard. It requires some modifications to be great in my opinion: The grip needs to be beefed up (way too thin) and the more than likely the edge will need sharpening. But once these faily simple things are done it is a great sword.
The Savoy should be great out of the box.
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Post by Kuya on Aug 7, 2012 15:26:54 GMT
I'm going to be the weirdo and suggest this Dynasty Forge XVIIIa, because it has really nice looking fittings. The Hanwei/Tinker Bastard Sword is really nice as far as stats go for me, though. The listed balance point for the H/T makes the DF look like a clumsy brute, though.
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Post by MOK on Aug 7, 2012 17:15:14 GMT
Well they're shiny and decorative, but honestly the style of the decorations doesn't fit the period when this type of swords were in use at all and makes it looks toy-like, more like a Victorian theater prop or letter opener than a real sword, to me... it has lots of small cosmetic details but they're poorly defined and roughly finished, and the overall design is somewhat unrefined, especially in blade profile and grip shape.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2012 16:58:09 GMT
Thanks everyone for your input! I'm leaning towards the va savoy
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Post by hongkongtaipan on Aug 10, 2012 1:31:55 GMT
You can't go wrong with a Savoy. I ordered custom colors from Sonny at Custom Sword Shoppe and it took a while to get to me,but I love the colors I chose. Check out my Savoy. Attachments:
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