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Post by Nox on Jul 30, 2012 0:30:46 GMT
Hey all Jian and chinese swordsmanship fans, does anyone know where I might be able to obtain jian fittings, hilts, scabbards the whole works? I have a really nice and sharp laminated jian blade but no scabbard, the handle and fittings are rather plain and made of brass so I want to replace them but can't find anything.
and on the subject of fittings why are most Jian made with the brass fittings? and not more made with steel fittings like the hanwei cutting Jian? i think it looks alot nicer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2012 6:00:41 GMT
Hey Nox, I think you can get fittings from Seven Stars Trading.
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Post by Uhlan on Aug 12, 2012 15:40:00 GMT
Hi Nox. There is this guy doing hand carved fittings, wonderful work but rather pricy, do Youtube: nine dragon jian fittings. The market for Chinese swords is very small compared to katana so the forges are reluctant to invest in lines of fittings. What I do is two things: when I order a jian even when the jian in question is 100% fitting wise I try to order an extra set from a different jian. Sometimes they allow this. What also works, for me that is, is to customise the fittings. Soldering parts to the jian guards when they are of good quality bronze is really easy even when you want something like a silver plague or somesuch on the plain guard. Bronze is easy to plate be it with silver or nickel, just do youtube: brushplating. You can drill small holes to make your version of openwork or do inlay with rhinestones or what have you. By the way, most traditional jian had plane fittings. The forges exploit what they know to be the Western expectation of what a Chinese fitting should look like, what with all the dragons, Phoo dogs, flowers and all. Only the very upper class had more elaborate fittings and were sometimes looked upon as gaudy and not what a gentleman should wear. Do the Youtube Nine dragon thing, this man is amazing.
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Post by chrisperoni on Aug 12, 2012 15:58:51 GMT
9 Dragons = Charles Wu. He is AWESOME! First thing I was going to suggest.
You can try emailing the forges who make jians.
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Post by Uhlan on Aug 12, 2012 17:27:37 GMT
Yes, Charles Wu. He's the man to go to. I saw his tachi fittings in steel. They were plain scary,perfect. I hope there are more people like him out there. He keeps the art alive!
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Post by Nox on Aug 13, 2012 5:41:57 GMT
I have looked at the fittings by Charles Wu, very nice stuff, but I'm afraid way out of my price range, I'm not sure what he actually charges for those but I'm willing to bet it's more than I can afford.
I may actually try silver coating on one of the new jian I have and see how that looks, I only purchased the swords for the blades, but I don't care for the fittings, though I never really liked brass fittings, guess I choose the wrong type of sword to favor since most Jian are made with brass fittings. My favorite fittings so far are the ones made for the Scott Rodell cutting Jian, steel, plain to no carvings but still very nice, also another down side to the brass is one of the throat caps on one of the scabbards dented and so I couldn't sheath the sword any more, i tried to fix it but only resulted in a cracked and broken scabbard and unfortunately there are no websites or anything to order a replacement scabbard for a Jian.
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Post by Uhlan on Aug 13, 2012 7:19:15 GMT
You could try to contact Zhi Forge. They are nice people and have good English. Or contact Less4More. They sell Jian in the wall hanger class, fitted with zinc-alloy accoutrement's at a very low price. Point is, most production jian and therefore their scabbards are somewhat the same in length. The tricky part is the scabbard mouth. In any replacement scabbard this will need some filing with needle files or gluing of small veneer strips to get the fit just right. Why not contact Zhi Forge and if they are willing, send them the habaki of your sword. On the other hand a cracked scabbard can be repaired with acid free wood glue. Take the throat piece of, remove all the loose little bits of wood, carefully open up the crack, clean the crack with acetone, brush a fair amount of glue in the crack with a very small brush, close the crack, clean off all surplus glue inside and out, than tape the throat to keep the crack shut, look at the inside again, remove glue( use a small slightly wet brush for this) and forget the whole thing for 24 hours. In the meantime clean out the inside of the throat piece of this rubbery goo the Chinese tend to use. When the glue is dry, sand or scrape off very carefully any glue on the outside of the scabbard, refit the clean throat piece and look to see whether the brass can touch the blade. If so, take the opening back a little with needle files, clean, refit and when done glue the throat piece back again with some rubber cement glue. All in all you can do this in an hour. Sending whoever your habaki is risky, if it is lost you have to fit a habaki on the blade and that will be much more difficult. I hope this post will be of service to you, cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2012 12:32:21 GMT
Hey, are you sure it's me you're looking for? Haha
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