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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 1:24:50 GMT
Maybe send that drawing over to Scorpion Swords, they do custom work.
PS wow, impressive group shot, Chris! :mrgreen:
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Post by Kuya on Jul 31, 2012 1:31:10 GMT
Whoa... you really had to inform me of that site!? Oh wow! Those swords with the strangely bent handles look intriguing. I swear, I'm going to end up with way too many swords...
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Post by chrisperoni on Jul 31, 2012 1:34:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 1:42:13 GMT
Ahh. I thought that was a pic of your collection, Chris. Neat stuff over at BK&S tho.
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Post by chrisperoni on Jul 31, 2012 2:16:46 GMT
I wish!
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Post by Pogo4321 on Aug 1, 2012 4:48:03 GMT
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Post by Kuya on Aug 1, 2012 5:28:52 GMT
Thanks! I'm assuming DSA blades are able to be used for more than hanging on the wall since SBG Store carries some of their products?
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Post by Elheru Aran on Aug 1, 2012 19:12:30 GMT
DSA are a good middle-of-the-range manufacturer. Their blades are functional and decent; their aesthetics aren't bad either. However, they do tend to be heavy; they've been improving this lately with upgrades of their standard models. Worth a look but don't be surprised if it needs some work 'out of the box'.
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Post by metinemre on Aug 1, 2012 20:25:01 GMT
Kuya, since i`ve decided what i`m looking for fantasy/medieval/katana sections i`ve been looking for a scimitar aswell, however i couldn`t find anything as a scimitar in my budget aswell. The ones i like are way over the budget but here are the pictures. My picks are all more like elvish versions. Elvish scimitars are more smooth and have soft curves. If you find anything close to these looks tell me please Rather than that, i spoke to almost all custom makers and price for something similar below. It is anywhere between $1400 to $3000 depending on design and material. Eyal from darksword is making custom stuff aswell. Two months ago i asked him for custom legolas knives and his price was $450 for each knive. I guess that was least expensive commisssion quota i got.
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Post by Kuya on Aug 1, 2012 22:50:50 GMT
Whoa... those Raven Armoury Scimitars look incredible. And you're right, the price is out of my range as well. But it's a case of getting what you pay for. Those things look like works of art. We can only hope that someday someone will make a "clone" in the price range for us mere working-class mortals. The one from DSA is really close, just a little too big for what I'm looking for. I want something that's a "one-hander." If you ever fine one that's along the lines of the Raven Armoury versions as far as profile and shape, let me know so I can get one too! I don't need all the amazing lines that are on those. I'm guessing a good chunk of the price goes into making those beautiful lines/planes. Closest things I've found are the Baltimore Knife and Sword "Yantaghans" that chrisperoni linked, but they have weird overlays and look a little too fat for their handles.
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Post by metinemre on Aug 2, 2012 2:09:22 GMT
Well yeah basially we get what we pay for. Anything made by artists are not for low budget. Unless hanwei, valiant or equivalent manufacturer decides to make similar to one of these for a reasonable price, i`ll wait; save and commission it from a custom blade artist.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 17:08:39 GMT
Here is a cheaper alternative. www.darksword-armory.com/product ... #more-1957 Not as sweet as the Raven Armory one, but pretty nice in it's own regard. Anyone know where one can have the Raven Armory sword custom made at a cheaper price?
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Post by Elheru Aran on Aug 18, 2012 17:21:35 GMT
I'd avoid talking about having someone copy another manufacturer's sword. There's making *similar* swords, and then there's outright copying. When you're talking about a popular, well known design such as the Lord of the Rings sword, copying is less of an issue, especially as IIRC United Cutlery doesn't have exclusive rights to the LOTR designs.
The Raven Armoury scimitar, on the other hand, is a design exclusive to Raven. Having someone else make the same sword for you would quite possibly result in Raven pressing charges against the other maker and you for infringement; at the very least, it's unethical.
Nothing wrong with having a *similar* sword made, though... and most bladesmiths prefer to have more freedom with their designs anyway...
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Post by Anders on Aug 18, 2012 19:13:22 GMT
This is probably only an option for people with some metalworking experience, but if I really wanted a Raven-type scimitar on a budget I would ask DSA if they'd sell me one of those blades bare and then I'd just reshape it: I'm not the biggest fan of DSA, but I've always thought their products have a great potential as bases for project swords.
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Aug 18, 2012 19:30:05 GMT
Hey man, that's a gorgous looking blade right there!! Way to improve an otherwise rather clumsy looking sword. Very cool!! I can totally see that working out beautifully.
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Post by Anders on Aug 18, 2012 19:36:29 GMT
It would require some patience and proper tools, of course, but I've already done something similar with my old DSA so it's absolutely doable.
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Post by metinemre on Aug 18, 2012 20:33:53 GMT
Wow that`s a very nice looking blade. Front curve is different and better than the one on the DSA web page, i`d like to see the finished scimitar!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2012 1:35:30 GMT
Thanks for the advice. I guess I kinda worded it wrong, but you prove a good point. I apologize to Raven Armory in advance for the notion. That being said, I think I'll go with Anders on having the blade reshaped.
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Post by Anders on Aug 21, 2012 15:04:07 GMT
Honestly, I don't think you'd get in trouble for producing a sword in the similar style as Raven Armoury. If copyright applies, it probably does so to the same extent it does to any other industrial design. It would be like two automobile brands making kinda similar-looking cars. Not that this ever actually happens, of course. What you might get in trouble for is out-right counterfeiting - actually making a very similar sword and trying to pass it off as a real RA.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Aug 21, 2012 16:10:31 GMT
Anders, to some degree that's true, but there are some differences between cars and swords-- for one thing, cars tend to follow a uniform fashion and then there are the demands of aerodynamics, which doesn't change. Swords on the other hand can vary much more, although I'll grant you that to the unacquainted one XII might look pretty much the same as another XII.
The line between what is 'artistic interpretation' and 'counterfeiting' can be very thin indeed, so most manufacturers won't touch other people's designs. If you make something yourself, that's different; you don't make any profit from it. Paying someone else to make an extremely similar design to another manufacturer crosses the line. It's the money that counts.
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