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Post by pappa-karlo on Jul 24, 2012 17:24:40 GMT
I would be grateful to anyone who will tell me about the decoration on the blade. I could not find information about a lady as a subject for decoration. Thank you. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2012 17:55:22 GMT
Freedom (Liberté), recognizable by the plumed hat, contemporary long robe & stem on right hand.
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Post by pappa-karlo on Jul 24, 2012 20:03:21 GMT
Thank you. That's funny. I have seen figures of Liberte, but very different. I did not recognize. Searched fashion of the time in interent. Now think - are contradictions between the symbol of freedom and an officer of the last king or not. |
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Post by TheNewDavout on Jul 24, 2012 21:31:27 GMT
Do you have any dates on the sabre? it occurs to me that the decoration on the blade (liberty) could have been added later, ie, post revolution. It's also possible, (I'm by no means an expert) that this sword comes from that brief period when Louis XVI "cooperated" with the revolutionaries. A very small window of time, but it's possible.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2012 0:09:45 GMT
That's pretty much it Davout, I saw a couple of those ''petit montmorency'' and most have simple blades. It happened that many officers got carried on by the ideals not just of the Revolution but also of the American war of independence so either they commissioned special blue-gilt/engravings or, most frequently, the blade was mounted later on.
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Post by jcbarnett on Jul 25, 2012 1:26:53 GMT
Very intrigueing sword - the style of the artwork appears to be very similar to the etching on the ricasso - still could have been done after the fact but likely not - the sword looks like it was probably a court sword - and they can get pretty gaudy sometimes. Nice piece!
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Post by pappa-karlo on Jul 25, 2012 11:09:22 GMT
Unfortunately, no date, manufacturer, and so on. Thank you all for your opinions. Interesting!
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jul 25, 2012 21:47:28 GMT
The sword itself is a standard infantry officers sword of the Louis XVI period prior to 1791.
Won't speculate as to why a Liberte figure is on a pre revolution sword.
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Post by jcbarnett on Jul 26, 2012 3:07:16 GMT
That sun figure on the guard wasn't standard I don't think - so Dave is probably right - and the embellishments are later...
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jul 26, 2012 9:36:50 GMT
Refer you to "Sabers of the French Army", Lhoste and Resek pgs 326-330. ( Don't own a copy of Petard's Infantry Swords for reference.) The "AU Soleil" pattern is a standard infantry pattern of the period, although the quality and character of the pattern is drastically varied depending on its producer.
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Post by jcbarnett on Jul 26, 2012 11:41:54 GMT
Thanks Dave - you are an amazing resource! I learn something new every day here!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2012 14:00:12 GMT
Petard' book on infantry swords states these models (sun on guard) appeared from 1788 to 1795 approx. so the revolutionary blade could well be original to the hilt. A very interesting sword from an interesting period in History.
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Post by pappa-karlo on Jul 26, 2012 16:32:14 GMT
Hello,
Marianne is really different, but her attributes are here.
Maybe her image evolved. Although I searched the Google images and did not find anything similar.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jul 26, 2012 20:34:10 GMT
Thanks P: Anything after Sept '92 is "revolutionary so petite Montmorencys with "Liberte" embellishments would appear to be originals.
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