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Post by EJP on Jul 10, 2012 11:41:02 GMT
I've just recieved my very first sword: two TFW Ginuntings. They are absolutely astonishingly beautiful and I want to make sure that they stay that way. So... what do I have to do? A light film of oil? wipe and reapply every... month? week? What oil? TFW reccommends vegetable oil. Do they really mean something like olive oil? Would gun oil like clp be better? I know that these might be dumb questions but .... hey, its for my preciossssssss...
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Post by wolf_shade on Jul 10, 2012 13:01:34 GMT
Gun oil is better than vegetable oil. In fact, I'd go so far as to say don't use any edible oil. How often you need to wipe and reapply is dependent on how humid the climate you live in is. Here on the SBG main site is a good general maintenance document.
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Post by Kuya on Jul 10, 2012 13:50:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2012 14:24:52 GMT
As mentioned, use gun oil over vegetable oil without a question. Any mineral oil will do. Choji (clove oil) is the standard "sword oil" for Japanese, but it's just a mineral oil like gun oil. Machine oils also work well too (sewing machine oil, 3-in-1, etc.). Remember that all these oils are made for protecting metals... edible oil is not.
Do not apply too much oil, or you'll attract dust, lint, and other things which will trap moisture. It only takes an almost unnoticeable coat, but of course your frequency of oiling affects how thick a coat to use as well. Give it a good wipe with an oily cloth after any serious use if possible.
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Post by Kumdoalan on Jul 14, 2012 15:07:07 GMT
From the website: All blades are high carbon steel and will rust when they encounter moisture and acids from hands and the environment!
Use a little petroleum type gun oil or vegetable oil and lightly coat, especially if blade is touched or encouters moist or wet environments. Some collectors like bees wax, such as that used on Samurai swords.
Exotic woods can be rubbed with vegetable oil (not petroleum oils!) and left to sit overnight, then excess oil rubbedd off.
They list vegetable oil, but really suggest it mostly for exotic woods. Gun oil seems to be the top suggestion for steel, with many other oils and treatments listed deppending on the given situation.
My guess is that vegetable oil is the most common oil used where this type of blade is historically from because its commonly found in every home...and any oil is better than no oil at all...
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Post by jhart06 on Jul 14, 2012 15:15:48 GMT
Just to keep misinformation from being perpuated as fact, this is DEAD WRONG. Certain oils, used incorrectly to care for swords and either not for their real purpose or applied wrong can actually quicken and cause worse rust than a blade left to the elements.
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Post by Kumdoalan on Jul 14, 2012 15:42:37 GMT
well within reason....I mean use your head dude,,,,
Im sure there are some oils that they use at NASA or an Oil Rig some place like that they have weird contents....
But for the type of blade listed by the website and its place in that local history I think we can be sure that any of the common household oils such as they list (veg oils and gun oils, etc), as well as the listed bees wax will do a fine job at keeping rust away.... The point is that doing nothing is not a very good answer, and that any oil is better than doing nothing and allowing rust to grow
You got to use your noodle you know....
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Post by Kumdoalan on Jul 14, 2012 15:51:47 GMT
And on this topic of different oils, there is one story I have of the way things are used by common people and how they work out at keeping rust away.
i have a co-worker that showed me the heads off an old motor that he had taken off many years ago. Both of the heads were wrapped in layers of plastic and tape.
one was clearly rusted, the other was totally rust free. the difference was in the type of oil my friend had used so many years ago to protect the metal. He had started out with the idea of coating both motor heads with oil and then wrapping them up in plastic, but when he came to do that he learned that he didnt have any normal oil around his place. So the first motor head was covered in WD-40 and wrapped up wet...
But when it came time to do the 2nd head he had used up the whole can of WD-40 . So he went into the kitchen and got the only oil he had at the time ..."PAM" spray cooking oil.
He used the PAM on the 2nd motor head and 10 years later, having been wrapped in plastic the whole time, there was not any sign of rust.
Im not sure anyone else has ever used PAM on such metal to prevent rust, and Im not sure its a good idea to try. But i can give this one example that it actually worked! so any oil is better than no oil,,,and WD-40 was not as good as Vegetable oil when it comes to preventing rust long-term in this instance. I think that main concern I would have with Veg oil is that a lot of that stuff have a limited shelf life, and it can go0 bad. Whereas Mineral oil lasts a long-long time in the same good condition...
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