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Post by junon on Jun 26, 2012 7:17:33 GMT
Count me in... I prefer good reproduction as well compared to antique... I just don't have the skill and the time to properly maintain a piece of history like that and I might ruin it... Ruining a repro is ok to me but not to ruin a good antique! Dave, as sabre expert, what is your opinion about Dynasty Forge flower sabre? ( www.dynastyforge.com/index.php?p ... &Itemid=21) Is it historically accurate? I really like the look but can't find out if it's fantasy model or there is a real history about the design of it in the past... In my inexperience eye, it seems to closely resembly Cold Steel 1815 French Officer's Saber ( www.coldsteel.com/18frofsa.html)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2012 17:09:51 GMT
I'd be interested to know if the Dynasty Forge sabers and smallsword ever made production; they've been listed without prices or availability since they first appeared about 2 years ago.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jun 26, 2012 22:22:22 GMT
I haven't really watch Dynasty Forges output. And their company advert doesn't supply any stats on these swords.
As has been pointed out here, the smallsword and saber are dead ringers for CS production models. Seems here is another quiet supplier for CS.
The CS saber is actually a generalised representation of a French AN IX (1802?) Light Cav Officers saber. The etching is meaningless historically, but the overall pattern and stats aren't bad; better than the so called 1830 ( which is really an AN XI enlisted light cav saber.)
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Post by Anders on Jun 26, 2012 23:35:32 GMT
Well, I don't normally buy swords with the intent of ruining them regardless of age, so that's not really something that worries me. Rather, when I buy a sword I don't want "a piece of history" but a reliable and attractive weapon that belongs to me, right now. I'll be damned. I seriously had no idea DF even made sabers.
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Post by junon on Jun 27, 2012 1:11:00 GMT
I just digged my old email archive and found out an email from Dynasty Forge early this year (January 2012 - I asked them about more info regarding the sabre). Here is the specs they gave me: The MSRP for the Sabre is $460. Some specs as follows: Blade length: 32" (81 cm) Grip length: 5.5" (14 cm) Overall length: 37.5" (95 cm) Weight: 2 lb. 1 oz. (0.936 kg) Blade material: 1060 high carbon steel Here is the pics they sent to me (click on it for bigger image): Hopefully this $460 MSRP would translate to $300 or less on KoA... I haven't contact KoA yet, but according to DF, KoA could help me to get one if I want... Unfortunately my sword fund is kind of limited right now after grabbing a jian from Seven Stars Trading....
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Post by TheNewDavout on Jun 27, 2012 7:27:45 GMT
[/attachment] 200005_2.jpg[/attachment] 200005_3.jpg[/attachment] Hopefully this $460 MSRP would translate to $300 or less on KoA... I haven't contact KoA yet, but according to DF, KoA could help me to get one if I want... Unfortunately my sword fund is kind of limited right now after grabbing a jian from Seven Stars Trading....[/quote] The specs given here are pretty close to the CS www.coldsteel.com/18frofsa.html . When Ryan at Kult of Athena gets one of the CSs in, I may have to go down and take a look (living in driving range of KOA is dangerous to my wallet, but awesome). Now that I think about it, the CS Italian longsword I have looks a bit like some of Dynasty forge's medieval work...
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Post by Dave Kelly on Aug 3, 2012 9:07:51 GMT
KoA has posted the DF Napoleonic Hussar Officer sabre with a $350.00 list. Forge and shipping costs are taking their toll...
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Post by junon on Aug 6, 2012 3:44:25 GMT
Hi Dave,
Can you provide the link to KoA store? I can't find the DF sabre you mentioned above... My google-fu and KoA-fu is kind of weak, I guess....
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Post by Dave Kelly on Aug 6, 2012 20:43:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2012 15:18:00 GMT
The french officer's sabre doesn't seem to be that much different stats wise from the cold steel 1830, but who can say about the handling? I'm more of a cheapskate, looking at the windlass american revolution, windlass 1840 heavy cavalry and perhaps the cold steel gentleman's (could be a later acquisition if my skill improves). I'm a bit gunshy on the 1840 considering the reports of the hilt loosening.
I'm also in the camp of not caring to have an accurate reproduction, but a well operating sword.
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Post by twin-rabbit on Nov 3, 2012 8:41:05 GMT
Part of my current dilemma in considering Windlass. Did the OP ever buy a saber? I'm interested as I am a noob also, who is looking for a good saber
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2012 14:01:01 GMT
I ended up getting a windlass american revolution saber. It's not a bad saber. It has some distal taper but not as much as it could have. It tapers slightly down the fuller then noticeably after that towards the tip. I like the wood grip and the hand guard is reassuringly substantial. Yes I need to spend more time with this saber to give a real report on it.
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Post by TheNewDavout on Nov 10, 2012 1:40:31 GMT
I've considered that one, and would be interested to hear your report on it. Question, anyone know if it's threaded?
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Nov 25, 2012 3:46:28 GMT
Well, I can see Dave just isn't TCB in my absence like I thought he would.
My own Windless American Revolutionary War Saber is now gone, and it was cut up into something entirely different before it was stolen, but I can comment somewhat on it. I can't drop the historical knowledge Dave could, but I can talk about the saber itself, and my impressions of it.
Let's talk about the good stuff first. I have always had a high opinion of Windlass's tempering, and this is (was) a well tempered blade. It would flex thirty degrees and bounce right back without any hint of a set. Yes, it was threaded, but as Dave has said in other threads, there's nothing wrong with that. "A threaded tang" does not necessarily mean a "rat tail tang." It was peened, over a threaded pommel cap. My WARW saber was tight, no rattles, even after cutting that was more enthusiastic than skilled.
There was some distal taper, but not nearly enough. I don't have my "Swords and Blades of the American Revolution" to hand, but IIRC, there's a close match in the book. Well, close from five feet, anyway.
I found the grip to be somewhat close, and that hindered the utility with the somewhat forward POB. Oh dear, now that I check KOA, I see that it's now just the Windlass American Revolution saber----at least that gives you the nifty acronym WAR saber, right? I retain a near moral certainty that the original (from "Swords and Blades") had a slightly recurved grip, whereas the grip is very much in line with the blade on the Windlass. Further, the original was almost certainly much, much thicker towards the base----I want to say 10mm, with rapid distal tapering.
I'd say it was a very well put together, not very accurate rendition.
HTH.
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Post by Freebooter on Feb 26, 2013 5:53:05 GMT
I have a MRL U.S. 1860 Lt Cavalry Sabre that I love. It is well made, sturdy and fairly well balanced to me. No repro is as balanced as an original of course. Anyway, I have had it several years, put a lot of handling and practicing moves on it, tapping my pell and tires, etc, and it is just as tight and solid and sturdy as it was the day I bought it years ago. I am very well satisfied with it! It was only $98.00 to boot!! Freebooter
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Post by Elrikk on Feb 26, 2013 6:15:07 GMT
Dave,
All homes should come standard with a "Sword Room"!
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Feb 26, 2013 15:17:30 GMT
Dave: I'm a big fan of your reviews (even notwithstanding my great enthusiasm for sabers). In reviewing the Hadik saber, you wrote in conclusion: Good reproduction, with excellent sword handling characteristics sbgswordforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=swordreviews&thread=14394&page=1#242096Was this an exception to the WEI handling issues? Or mostly the same old same old? KOA has the Universal Sword version listed as backordered, and I don't know if I should get enthusiastic or not. Advice, guidance, counseling?
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