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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2012 15:37:08 GMT
Hello, I'm new to these forums. Couldn't find a place to properly introduce myself so if someone could point me to the right direction, that would be great ! Excuse me for any grammar mistakes, English is not my primary language. Anyway, i'm not so experienced with swords. I collect some for decoration, not for any cutting purpose. Just to hang on to the wall and look at it all day. Now here's what happened: About 3 weeks ago, my friend's house burned down. And he had some decoration swords on his wall, which got affected by the heat of the fire. The sheat of the sword and the grip of the sword were wrapped in cloth. Due to the heat, this melted and started dripping off the sheat. I managed to take some sand-grinding paper and grind the sheat and grip. It removed the affected wood and molten cloth stuff. So the sheat and grip look alright. I inspected the sword itself and there's some burn marks on the sword. Now, my question is: can these be removed ? I was thinking about using a polishing-paste and polish the sword. I've tried it with soap and it didn't remove any of it. I'll add some pics. Thanks in advance !
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2012 2:51:29 GMT
I would try a product called "Goof Off" with cloth first and then 0000 steel wool. The hamon/temperline is wire wheel brushed on and will be damaged by anything too abrasive. The polishing paste may work or even Brasso if you have those products in your locale/country. Good luck and sorry to hear about the house fire.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2012 11:24:22 GMT
I couldn't find "Goof Off" around here. But we do have plenty of Brasso here. Thanks for reminding me of Brasso, i think it'll to the job. I'll let you know if it worked.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2012 16:33:57 GMT
Alright, i got most of the burn marks away. Except on the biggest sword, it seems to be inside the steel itself. Tomorrow i'll see if i can find some Commandant 4. It's a stronger polishing paste than Brasso. If that fails aswell, then i'm afraid there isn't much more i can do.
What would happen if i'd use a high grit sanding paper to remove the mark ? 2000 grit for example. Would it take away parts of the hamon/temperline ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2012 21:41:47 GMT
I don't know the exact properties of the steel used for real swords. But the temperature of a house fire can reach up to 600-800 degree celcius. Ofcourse, this depends on the materials inside the house, the time of exposure and if the sword is sheated or not. Someone that knows the properties of the steel could answer your question better, as i have no idea what kind of steel is used for swords (shame on me for being a metalworker).
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Post by Sam H on Jun 18, 2012 17:35:11 GMT
I don't mean to be the guy who posts the obvious negative question but why are you putting so much effort into cheap swords? Looking at the blades and the one pic of the fittings of a katana? I wouldn't use any of them for cutting. They'd just be cheap wall hangers... easily replaced, more so than repaired. Right?
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Jun 18, 2012 20:05:35 GMT
A house fire is sure to ruin any sword, no way around it. Depending on the heat treat (ergo depending on the desired use), tempering temperatures usually are between 360 and 450F. Given the much higher temperature of a house fire, the blade is ruined, any handle and scabbard too of course. In other words... yeah, you should get a safe if you're worried about that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2012 0:31:45 GMT
It's much cheaper to replace them than to repair them. And they are indeed some simple wall hangers. I don't intend to cut anything with it because the quality of the steel is not strong enough for that purpose. But my friend has had them for years and was really attached to them. After i helped him with cleaning his house, he gave them to me as a gift for my efforts to help him. So i told him i'd clean them up and make them look as good as possible and find a nice spot on the wall for them.
So it's not so much about the effort i have to make to repair them, or the money i could save by replacing them. It's more about trying to repair something that has alot of value to a friend.
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