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Post by Dave Kelly on Mar 10, 2019 16:49:55 GMT
Thanks! Ordered from the publisher! Went to their home page and saw three other books I'd like (140-160.00 each) ??? |
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Post by berntk on Mar 11, 2019 14:16:27 GMT
I didn't look too hard at their other offerings, but found the price of that book to be quite reasonable; a specialty publisher and all that:
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1 x With Drawn Sword (95,00 €)
Versandkosten: 23,00 €
Gesamtkosten: 118,00 €
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I do live in Europe: Norway to be precise, although outside of the Euro-zone.
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Post by Aikidoka on Oct 8, 2021 17:30:57 GMT
So what would you call a sabre with this hilt, but the flat sided/fuller on one side blade? I had thought M1861, but apparently they have different funky looking hilts. The 1861 and 1869 all branches cavalry sabers had inside blades that were flat inside and fullered outside. That statement isn't true in context to lefties. The majority of Austrian Cav sabers are internationally unique, as they were made with ambidextrous hilts. So a lefty would have the flat outside. As to 1845-58 HCs the enlisted guard plate was solid ('cept for rain holes and a sword knot slit(s). Officer guards were caste with floral or national engravings; a common Austrian officer saber practice adopted by the British. The 45 and 50 guard plates were cast iron. They had a very bad failure rate because of cracking at the tang mounting point. The 1858 reinforced this point and appeared to addressed the problem. But the War Ministry was already fed up with the issue and a replacement was designed and ready no sooner than the 1858 was. Lastly, how do you keep finding this ****? I thought I blew it all up! Hi Dave, Is the collar at the base of the blade the reinforcement that you are referring to that prevented the guard from cracking?   Edit:As opposed to this example without the collar?  |
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Post by Dave Kelly on Oct 9, 2021 1:08:45 GMT
Yes; the collar was poured as part of the hilts form.
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Post by Aikidoka on Oct 9, 2021 2:08:55 GMT
Sorry, I don't think the pictures were visible in that post. I have added them as attachments. Yes; the collar was poured as part of the hilts form. Thanks, Dave!
I'm glad to hear that. I bought the M1845 in that first image with the red arrow today from Matt Easton, and was hoping it wouldn't come apart in my hand while cutting tatami  |
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Post by Dave Kelly on Oct 9, 2021 23:38:28 GMT
Sorry, I don't think the pictures were visible in that post. I have added them as attachments. Yes; the collar was poured as part of the hilts form. Thanks, Dave!
I'm glad to hear that. I bought the M1845 in that first image with the red arrow today from Matt Easton, and was hoping it wouldn't come apart in my hand while cutting tatami Just out of curiosity, what did he charge you for the 1845. They used to be 1500.00 + S&H. |
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Post by Spathologist on Oct 10, 2021 3:09:35 GMT
I find it quite odd that they only ground a fuller on one side....
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Post by treeslicer on Oct 10, 2021 4:41:15 GMT
Sorry, I don't think the pictures were visible in that post. I have added them as attachments. Thanks, Dave!
I'm glad to hear that. I bought the M1845 in that first image with the red arrow today from Matt Easton, and was hoping it wouldn't come apart in my hand while cutting tatami Just out of curiosity, what did he charge you for the 1845. They used to be 1500.00 + S&H.
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Post by Pino on Oct 10, 2021 11:47:57 GMT
That's no 1845 at all, in fact it's pretty much a mix of 3 different patterns: the guard from an M1869, the blade from an M1850 (long, HC version) and the grip and backstrap from the 1845 (or M1850, they were the same). After studying the pics in detail, the weirdest thing is that the guard is dated 1856 for a design issued only 13 years later! The drilled holes are also placed in an unusual way; perhaps this was a guard from a still-born project made in the 1850s? Here are pics of a M1845 vs a M1850, note the differences in the emplacement of the knot hole, the 1845 also has 8 drilled holes whereas the 1850 has 7 holes, a slightly wider guard and a shorter blade.    |
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Post by Dave Kelly on Oct 10, 2021 17:47:16 GMT
I couldn't bring up these pictures when I first commented. The bright hilt is an 1845 hilt. The sword knot single slit is a tell. The 1850 has a double slit.
The blackened hilt is most likely an original 1858 "experimental". According to "With Drawn Blades" history there were a number of variants in early production, for a program that failed.
Nothing here is 1869.
The 1850 had a light cav grind down to 33 inches of blade.
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Post by Aikidoka on Oct 15, 2021 1:28:38 GMT
Sorry, I don't think the pictures were visible in that post. I have added them as attachments. Thanks, Dave!
I'm glad to hear that. I bought the M1845 in that first image with the red arrow today from Matt Easton, and was hoping it wouldn't come apart in my hand while cutting tatami Just out of curiosity, what did he charge you for the 1845. They used to be 1500.00 + S&H. Matt Easton sold it for £550 + £45 for shipping to the US. So the total was around $810 USD.     |
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Post by bobkayblack on Oct 7, 2024 19:59:54 GMT
Just out of curiosity, what did he charge you for the 1845. They used to be 1500.00 + S&H. Matt Easton sold it for £550 + £45 for shipping to the US. So the total was around $810 USD. My family has several swords that I am just getting around to identifying. It looks like we have a Austrian M1858 Cav Sabre. I will try to insert relevant photos below. They are similar to some of the photos already posted but the hilt looks to be very simple. The scabbard is leather and the metal tip is not connected. 1858 abs B are stamped on one side of the blade. ESJUNG and GF with cross emblem on the other. Curious if I have identified properly. Best Regards Bob Black    |
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