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Post by Kumdoalan on Apr 27, 2012 21:29:00 GMT
I want a Japanese style sword..
I have looked at others, but I find I always come back to the Japanese Katana design as the one I have as the mental image of what im looking for...
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Post by johnwalter on Apr 28, 2012 3:06:53 GMT
I have handled a few Alan and they are nice inexspensive iaito.A good deal.
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Post by kasim18 on Apr 28, 2012 4:15:58 GMT
hey man, i know that it's a significant bump up in price, but i found the hanwei bamboo mat for like another $50, never actually held one, but other people seem tho think they're pretty sweer www.katerno.com/detail.php?s=223948
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Apr 28, 2012 9:41:29 GMT
Well I found out that I had asked the question about Korean sword arts in Finnish martial arts forum several years ago, and not remembering the answer.
Haedong Kumdo = Specialized in 2 sword style Haidong Gumdo = Korean sword art with mainly one sword (they call it jingum) Kumdo = Korean version of kendo
I'm not going to go into their history as that is unrelevant.
I thought you were practicing either one of the 2 above, I didn't remember there is that kendolike kumdo also.
Depending on what kind of use you will have for it and if it's mainly for kumdo or kendo the practice sword might differ a bit. What will you intend to do with these practice swords?
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Post by Kumdoalan on Apr 28, 2012 10:19:34 GMT
In kendo and Kumdo there is a form we called in Kendo "KendoKata" You can see it practiced in many YouTube videos, In this form you hit each others sword.
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Post by Kumdoalan on Apr 28, 2012 12:10:27 GMT
In other sword news.... Im thinking that the next sword I should add to my collection might be a non-sharp practice sword. So after kicking around the idea, I decide to send off an email to the guy who in China helped me out so well last time. The problem is that I have to be very careful that I make very clear what Im saying....or the guy in China who answers my email sends back the weirdest answers.I love my T-10 sword , and I wanted my future blunt sword to be from the same makers and have the same high quality to the fittings, but getting that point across to the guy is tricky. Yesterday I sent a email request for information about a blunt sword and this morning I just got back my answers Well sorta..... I asked him if he had any blunt swords already made , that are a close match to my T-10 but made out of a cheaper metal to save money, so that we both could save time and I could get a sword right off the shelf and not have to make a special order for a sword? I got back an answer thanking me for asking such an "expert' type question? and then he closes by saying making a sword for me would be "big pleasure" Thats good to hear, but not really what I was asking about
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Post by Sam H on Apr 28, 2012 12:56:38 GMT
Unless you speak Cantonese or Mandarin etc. you will find Chinese salespeople give some interesting answers to questions you ask - especially in specialized fields like swords. The language barrier is ALWAYS an issue here unless you can find someone who is fluent in both languages.
If you really want a sword like what you're asking for the best option for you is to actually purchase a clone of your sword you already have - contact the manufacturer of your katana and ask for the same one to be made except request that it be left dull and for that matter that it be left with a particularly thick dull edge. Even then though you'll find the sword taking damage from blade to blade kata use.
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Post by bruno on Apr 29, 2012 2:34:29 GMT
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Post by Kumdoalan on Apr 29, 2012 2:40:43 GMT
We call it Bbon in Kumdo. its he same thing, with just slightly different moves... And for those of you who dont know what we are talking about, here is a video -
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Post by Kumdoalan on Apr 29, 2012 2:44:08 GMT
I dont...I think me and the guy from China are on the same page, but it's hard to tell... I have sent my correspondence to a few friends here on the forum to0 get their in-put as to what to say and how to say it.
We shall see tomorrow if the guy in China understands what Im asking him to make for me?
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Apr 29, 2012 12:49:22 GMT
Ah, steel vs. steel will always be hard for the sword.
I know there are special kendo kata / kendo no kata mogito in Japan but I remember reading that even those will nick fairly easily and they usually are reserved to be used in only demonstrations. These forms are practiced with bokuto in regular practice. Seen some of these c. 50000 Yen range, if I remember correctly, I guess Tozando group has one model and some others have too.
If you need to train steel vs. steel, my recommendation would be stage combat katanas, they look a bit like real katana but they are made to withstand hits by another similar weapon. And yes even these will show signs of wear.
Can't think of anything else, I guess some martial artists who have practiced these forms might give you more answers. However I would advice using caution when doing steel vs. steel contact.
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Post by Kumdoalan on Apr 29, 2012 13:35:23 GMT
well...I mean that sounds like another idea. But let me ask you a question, how fast could you tell it was a fake blade? What distance could your eye catch that its fake? How many times would the swords have to smack each other before your ear caught it was not reg steel?
I ask because there are a few YouTube videos up that I have glanced at where you can sure tell right away that the swords are not cutting swords.
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Post by kasim18 on Apr 29, 2012 13:48:03 GMT
you could try a badger blades kat. you cannot damge them no matter what you do, the edge is nothing, and you could probably order it blunt
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Post by Kumdoalan on Apr 29, 2012 13:53:46 GMT
yes, that is the reason you have it be a blunt sword, and you dont really care all that much if it ends up with a few new marks each time. Its going to get beat up no way around that fact...thats also the point of it being not a sword you worry over.
way different than how it goes with your real cutting sword.
I know that sooner or later I will one day discover a small mark on my new T-10 blade and it will be a very emotional time for me. I may have to call in sick to work...and need medication...LOL
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Post by Kumdoalan on Apr 29, 2012 13:55:41 GMT
I will remember that thanks. im kinda in the middle of dealing with the guy in China that i already ordered a sword from and i liked it a lot.
But if that turns out to be a hard path to go down them Im going to back-up and go with another dealer..
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Post by Kumdoalan on Apr 29, 2012 13:58:10 GMT
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Post by Kumdoalan on Apr 29, 2012 14:01:34 GMT
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Post by LastGodslayer on Apr 29, 2012 14:15:35 GMT
For a case, take a look at the rifle cases from Mezzi. If I could afford the International shipping, I'd get one.
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Post by Kumdoalan on Apr 29, 2012 14:25:37 GMT
Have you ever heard of anyone around here who used a gun case to transport their swords?
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Post by Maynar on Apr 29, 2012 15:20:39 GMT
Yes, I've heard of it. Can't recall any specifics offhand, but I do believe it has been done.
A purpose-made padded sword travel bag might prove more economical than going out and buying a gun case. Just a guess. A hard case of any type will obviously provide better protection than a soft case. Just depends on how much protection you need for your given situation.
Hanwei makes one, I'm sure there are others out there as well.
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