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Post by Artelmis on Apr 11, 2012 22:27:35 GMT
So, I've kinda given myself an ultimatum. If I can't reliably and consistently hit a 6 inch target at 20 yards (turkey) with my bow, I'm gonna pick up a shotgun and hit the range... hard. I have until April 27th.
Looking for a nice shotgun that's not going to break my bank.
right handed model semi-auto preferred wood stock preferred, really not a fan of those plastic looking pieces interchangable/removable choke in the event I want to shoot slugs or shot. if fixed choke, modified preferred
something that could load shells for turkeys and waterfowl.
thoughts, opinions, and links appreciated
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Post by Elrikk on Apr 12, 2012 3:39:59 GMT
Um...whats gonna happen on April 27th?
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Post by Feanor on Apr 12, 2012 3:55:22 GMT
The only one I can think of that fits your bill for under a grand is the remington model 11. I love the saiga twelve personally. www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =280919423
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Apr 12, 2012 3:57:55 GMT
What's your budget? There's the Mossberg 930 Field, which is a semi-auto with wood stocks, and features the standard Mossberg tang-safety, so it's ambidextrous. According to Mossberg's website, it comes with an interchangeable accu-choke set. Here's a link to it at Impact Guns, where it goes for 475$, though it's currently out of stock. That might give you a ballpark idea of what you can likely find it for.
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Post by slav on Apr 12, 2012 4:04:45 GMT
I second the Remington Model 11.
For any Mossberg model, I have always recommended spending the few extra dollars and just picking up a used Remington equivalent.
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Post by slav on Apr 12, 2012 4:12:08 GMT
Then again it depends on your price range. I have a Benelli Montefeltro and love it!
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Post by kristoferjaemz on Apr 12, 2012 4:13:57 GMT
For what it's worth, I have few friends who used mossberg shotguns in the military for house to house sweeping and say they wouldn't be caught dead with one again, given the choice. Of course, this opinion comes from the fact that they were almost caught dead with one, due to malfunctions at crucial moments. Keep in mind that they were operating in arid, sandy climates, and with the exception of an AK-47 variation, no firearm performs well in those conditions. That's second hand info from a guy that only owns 1 shotgun, a bottom of the barrel remmington 870 pump action. I've always heard that for semi-auto, you can't go wrong with a benelli, something like a super eagle. But those will likely run you over 1k. Shoot that bow a little straighter and you won't have to worry.
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Post by slav on Apr 12, 2012 4:36:51 GMT
Don't underestimate your 870. I bet the 870 is exactly what your buddies were wishing for when their Mossbergs failed. Love em. I would take even a used, beat to s*** one over a Mossberg any day. The work, they shoot easy, and they are tough.
PS: You can find nice used Benelli in the $600 range if you look carefully.
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Post by kristoferjaemz on Apr 12, 2012 4:52:38 GMT
Don't get me wrong, I love my $270 870! It's the AK of the shotgun world. I'm not much of a shotgun hunter though, I stick to ridding my family's farm of unwanted guests like ground squirrels, coyotes and snakes. My friends have hunted with my shotgun more than I have. I just have this theory that everyone should own 5 firearms at the very least, and my 870 covers the "shotgun" category for me. The others are semi-auto rifle, so you are never outgunned, bolt action rifle, to take big game if you need to feed the family, semi-auto handgun, for rapid fire close quarters self defense, and a medium to large caliber revolver, for the utmost reliability. I used to be a normal, sane individual, but I have slowly joined the rest of the lunatics out there who feel that we need to be prepared for some sort of dire catastrophe, whether it be economic collapse, acts of "God," something spawned by the CDC, you name it. I think that having 5 daughters has elevated my need to be able to protect my family, and (to tie it in with the OP since I've been on a tangent) having a reliable 870 shotgun is one piece of the puzzle. Sorry for the rant, mates.
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Post by Artelmis on Apr 12, 2012 21:10:38 GMT
April 27: my 24th birthday, also the day before i go on a 3 day turkey trip
budget: i'd honestly like to keep it at under 1k..
worst case I can just use my old Browning A5. it has a built-in full choke, and with the steel shot, it has about a 12 inch spread at 35 yards... shoot a bunny with that and you get salsa.
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Post by GUEST on Apr 12, 2012 21:20:53 GMT
Get yourself a good used Remington model 1100, or a new Remington model 11. They are both great shotguns with all kinds of add on for them. You can go from hunting to full tactical in just a few minutes by changing out parts.
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Post by slav on Apr 13, 2012 1:30:29 GMT
Nothing wrong with a good Browning A5...
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Post by Artelmis on Apr 13, 2012 23:08:38 GMT
it's very good
but here's the problem
it has a fixed full choke. and steel shot groups tighter than the old lead shot.
meaning at 35 yards, i'm shooting a 12 inch pattern.
tends to turn things to salsa
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Post by ShooterMike on Apr 14, 2012 0:25:34 GMT
That's the good part, not the bad. For turkeys, with that kind of tight patterning, aim for head shots. If you can keep the bead within 2" of the head in any direction you've bagged a turkey with no damage to the breast.
I have Remingtons and Benellis galore. But I would be happy in the field after turkeys with the Browning A5 you've described.
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Post by GUEST on Apr 14, 2012 20:18:29 GMT
You may want to check to see if you old Browning A5 i proofed for steel shot, don't want to mess up a good barrel. My guess is it's not suited for steel shot and you are going to peen the inside of the barrel and choke.
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Post by Artelmis on Apr 15, 2012 1:50:07 GMT
that too
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Post by Sam H on Apr 17, 2012 23:04:23 GMT
A 12" group at 35yds is actually good for turkey. I'm assuming you're going to be shooting steel shot then? If you're shooting lead it may or may not open up a bit but even then you'll have a good tight grouping. In fact for turkey I'd want an even tighter grouping if possible - I typically use an extra extra full turkey choke (tighter than a full cylinder choke) for turkey and have taken head shots out to 55yds. I hear from others they've taken turkey out to 75yds but that's rather far in my book for me to shoot.
Anyway with turkey you WANT to take head shots. Believe it or not I've seen my kid bounce #4 lead shot off a turkey's feathers at 35yds. Knocked it over and sent it kicking like it was hurt but then it got up and ran away as we were walking to it... I put a load of #4 shot into the turkey's head as it ran (about 40yds) and dropped it. When we got home and plucked it we found NO gunshot wounds on the body of the turkey - just a broken wing from the impact. Who would have thought turkey feathers were good ballistic protection media against shotguns huh?
Good luck on your hunt and the Browning A5 is a far better shotgun than a Mossberg or a Remington. Save your money and go with that.
EDIT: Putting the A5 aside for a Mossberg or Remington is like saying you have a Lotus Esprit but want to go buy a new Ford or Chevy coupe to go racing with. Sure either will get the job done but why bother when you have something way nicer?
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