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Post by George on Mar 27, 2012 3:22:20 GMT
After a bit of use my Dojo pro has a very slight 'clicking' or rattle of the nakago or tang in the tsuka. The Tsuka itself is fine, no cracks or anything but its a tiny bit oversized and with a bit of use has come loose to where you get the click feedback... Yes im 100% sure its the nakago rattle and not the fushi or habaki etc. On dis-assembly you can move the nakago in the tsuka quite obviously.
Whats a good cure for this, short of gluing (which i dont want to do as i want to re-wrap it eventually) and making a new tsuka (which is simply impossible for me at the present moment)?
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Mar 27, 2012 3:56:10 GMT
Tape. It works pretty great. I'd use either electrical or masking tape. Add a strip around the nakago and see if that does it. If it's too tight, take off half. If it's still loose, add a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2012 3:58:39 GMT
A simple wooden shim should do the trick. There's an entire rack of balsa wood at a hardware store near my house and there's probably something similar at any craft store, look around a little and you can probably find what you need for less than a dollar.
Heck, you could even just chip off a piece of any wooden board if you don't want to do that. I shimmed a scabbard with cardboard and it held up for much longer than I expected... might be okay for a tsuka since it's not removed often. Plus side to it is that you could wrap it around the entire tang to get a secure fit.
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Post by grmnsplx on Mar 27, 2012 4:18:37 GMT
This happens sometimes especially if there is a change of humidity - the wood will shrink or expand. Paper works well but it takes some trial and error.
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Post by George on Mar 27, 2012 4:32:37 GMT
The tape idea sounds great for a quick fix Ill keep that in mind if i cant find a more permanent fix... I have some wooden shims for saya repair, maybe that would work? Its very thin and its easy to work with...
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Post by Lobster Hunter on Mar 27, 2012 5:08:49 GMT
A strip of thick paper like bristol board about the length of the interior of the tsuka will work fine. Just be sure not to get it to fit too tightly. Upon reassembly, simply punch through the paper that's blocking the mekugi holes with a pen or something and hammer in the mekugi for a snug fit.
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Post by lamebmx on Mar 27, 2012 15:10:24 GMT
If I am not mistaken, you guys are going into fall right now correct? I would stick with tape or something applied to the nakago and removed come spring time. It is probably just from changing seasons, dryer air causes the wook to dry out and this causes it to shrink a little bit. Anything glued to the tsuka may bite you in the behind come spring when the humidity goes back up and the wood gets more moist causing the wood to swell a tiny little bit. Of course you live there and know more of whats going on with the weather.
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Post by George on Mar 27, 2012 20:32:08 GMT
Actually thats a really good point. Its a fair bit of movement tho can wood really swell that much? The Mekugi holds it mostly when its assembled. I am going to cut wooden strips from my shim boards and put them in without glue. See it that worth then leave them for a year before gluing for a permanent fix. You were right with the seasons too
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Post by lamebmx on Mar 27, 2012 23:02:28 GMT
wow I cannot say what I want to say without it just sounding wrong. I am no expert in wood, but I would think you would be more of a change in feeling than actually being able to rattle the blade around in the saya. Like a bit less than a millimeter, something that can be measured but would be close enough for virtually any work. I know another member on here noted in a tsuka core making thread that his swords went from too tight to uncomfortably loose where he lived. Of course that is region dependent and I have not yet experienced it. Spring has sprung, but we still have a bit for the humidity to come along.
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Post by George on Mar 28, 2012 7:36:20 GMT
This weeks plan is to have a go at fixing. Will give tape a try first on your advice then the shims. Just from looking at it the gap seems big enough for wooden shims but as you said it may only be a mil and then tighten up in spring (humid) time...
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Post by lamebmx on Mar 28, 2012 15:38:04 GMT
A used sword I had purchased from a fellow forumite had a piece of paperboard taped to the nakago. I had to remove the paperboard and the fit is nice and very snug. Before it did not want to go back in with the paperboard.
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Post by Kumdoalan on Mar 28, 2012 15:52:09 GMT
I would like to know how this issue went?
I would like to know if the fix worked, or are we still looking for another way?
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Post by lamebmx on Mar 28, 2012 17:09:54 GMT
I believe all fixes mentioned work. YMMV and all that. And good call looking up this information now, before your new baby goes through these stages. Might also want to check out how to shim the saya, since I am betting your baby will see a lot of use in the near future!
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Post by George on Mar 28, 2012 20:57:22 GMT
Have not tried yet. I'm working this week and in the process of moving 3,500km away lol. Ill prob get to it on Sat or Sunday i would assume Want some pics of the repair?
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Post by zentesukenVII on Mar 31, 2012 22:39:17 GMT
You send it to ZentesukenVII for a new free tsuka. I owe you one!
But in all honesty, I have used electrical black tape for this many times on production tsuka. It works great.
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Post by George on Mar 31, 2012 23:07:06 GMT
Haha maybe once im all move in we can work something out Fixing it now ill get some pics as i go... Then its off to test it out on some 20L water containers XD
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Post by George on Apr 1, 2012 0:07:39 GMT
Well i tried the shims first so i could have a more permanent fix. Even though they are REALLY thin they we too thick. I lay two bits on each side along the Ha. No good so i used tape. Its pretty much perfect, just needs another bit further down towards the lower mekugi-ana.
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