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Post by NightRaid on Mar 7, 2012 15:59:30 GMT
OOPS!... (read the update bit of the review)
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Post by Lunaman on Mar 7, 2012 16:10:10 GMT
Jesus, man. Don't use bricks for cutting stands. :shock: :lol: Nobody's aim is perfect 100% of the time, so have a stand made of wood or plastic. ---Glad to see the sword's ok.
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Post by NightRaid on Mar 7, 2012 16:15:18 GMT
yeah, I'm still in the works for making a wooden stand. I don't get to cut too often, so I use what I already have...Still, hitting bricks and coming out with only a slight scratch is rather...scary for a sword...
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Post by frankthebunny on Mar 8, 2012 5:32:39 GMT
that is a great looking sword and the scabbard and belt are like winning the lottery and being able to splurge on a kit many times the price. I'm really glad that I still have my Castile even though I really needed the cash and tried to sell it. I don't get to cut much but I just love looking at it and dry handling it. the signature line is perhaps the number one best sword package deal on the market period. great review, thank you. have some karma on me oh, and what Lunaman said! unbelievable that the edge came out with such minor damage, you could have wound up with the shards of Narsil wall hanger
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Post by Grindhouse on Mar 10, 2012 18:36:37 GMT
Thx for review ! I've been thinking about buying this sword for a while and your review was usefull. I have a few questions for you, or for anyone who could help me.
1- If you don't mind, can you tell me where you bought your sword from ? I don't know if i should get mine on kultofathena, sbg store or directly from the VA website... Strangely, the only place that clearly specify that the belt is included is kultofathena. Do you know if SBG and VA also ship the belt with the sword ?
2- Was it common to see punch-outs on a crossguard during the medieval period ? I find it pretty attractive, but i think it's the first time i see that on a modern medieval sword. Is it ''realistic'' of longswords/bastard swords from that period ?
3- The SBG store offer two options for the edge, sharp and very sharp. But that option is not available on the VA website or on kultofathena, why ? Is it someone from SBG that actually sharpen the sword even more than it is when it leave the VA forge ? I'm wondering how i should order it... I like very sharp swords, enough to cut paper, but at the same time i want the edge to be very durable, and sometime i like to go crazy and cut pieces of woods and stuff like that... so idk.
4- How is the edge compared with, let's say, the edge of an Albion sword ? Is it less sharp that an Albion ? Does an Albion also have an ''appelseed'' edge like the VA savoy, or does it have a ''V'' shape like a katana ?
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Post by Aaron on Mar 10, 2012 18:48:15 GMT
1. You will get the belt from both SBG and VA, it's part of the package. If you order directly through VA, you will have the option of specifying custom colors if you wish. That, IMO, is worth paying the shipping versus the SBG Store (but on the bad side, your purchase won't be supporting SBG). Your call.
2. It was not common, but it's not modern. I believe they were prominent in later centuries. Someone feel free to correct me if I am mistaken.
3. The "very sharp" option came about because the original run of Castiles had a generally dull edge. The problem was fixed and there is no difference between "sharp" and "very sharp." The option has just stuck around for some reason.
4. It depends on the blade geometry of the model, but IN GENERAL Albion's have an appleseed edge. I would give the edge (hah, pun) to Albion over VA, but VA does produce a very nice edge. You shouldn't have any worries regarding them.
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Post by Grindhouse on Mar 10, 2012 20:54:05 GMT
Thx a lot ! So i should except a ''pretty sharp'' balde, but not sharp enough to cut paper, like the OP mentionned in his review ? I like the stock color of the handle and the scabbard, as seen on the sbg store pictures. Do you know if it's the antique brown color ? Or is antique brown something else ?
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Post by Aaron on Mar 10, 2012 21:01:12 GMT
I've owned two swords from VA in Antique Brown and, to me, that appears to be the same color. As for the edge, I'm not sure why the sword in the OP could not cut paper, all four swords I've received from VA have had excellent edges, able to easily cut paper. Not a razor, mind, but you don't really want that on these type of swords anyhow. An edge not sharp enough to cut paper is not necessarily a bad edge, though. Look at this review from Greg of the Atrim XIIIb.1: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6794That sword is fairly dull and is still able to execute fantastic cuts. The blade geometry, in most cases, is more important than the exact sharpness of the edge. I can't tell you what exactly to expect, other than you will be getting a good sword with a great scabbard for an excellent price from a company which has exhibited some of the best customer service in the market.
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Post by NightRaid on Mar 11, 2012 1:45:05 GMT
If my sword were razor-sharp at the time of me hitting the brick wall, I think the blade would have come out a tiny bit worse than it did... Remember, the sharper the edge, the more prone it will be to damage/dulling
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Post by Grindhouse on Mar 13, 2012 18:01:22 GMT
You said in your review that the blade was not easy to flex. Would you qualify it more as a stiff blade or a sloppy blade ? (Cause i thought VA blades were mostly floppy) Personally,i prefer blades that are not too floppy...
Have you owned any other medieval swords ? any others VA, tinker or anything ? How would you compare the savoy to them ?
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Post by NightRaid on Mar 16, 2012 2:11:02 GMT
I own a Barnett hand and a half, which is INCREDIBLY stiff, but i've heard that Barnett swords are notorious for their aweful tempering.I've also handled my friends Hanwei Mercenary and War Sword. The flex on the war sword felt about the same as the savoy, maybe a tiny bit stiffer. the mercenary was very stiff and hard to flex but thats mostly because it was rather thick. I've also handled a Windlass, the Oakeshott XIIa which to me was very whippy, much whippier than the Savoy. I think its more on personal preference, since some people like stiffer blades where others like a little flex. To me, this sword felt about right.
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Post by ghost on Mar 16, 2012 6:34:12 GMT
Thank you for the review. I have a Malatesta built with the Savoy blade - love it.
It is quite stiff - barely able to flex over my knee (if you handled a HT Viking or HT non-fuller- feels about the same) I concur with your feel on the HT war sword (got one) - a wider blade w/ some more flex.
As for comparison to other VAs (this is my fourth), I would say this feels a whole lot better than the Knight's Templar. If you want a very nice and flexy blade - I think the Malatesta and Knight's would be perfect. One handed crusader is also very light and bendy.
I haven't handled the Kreigs but I have heard these are very desirable - stiff but able to flex, I am not sure how it would compare to the Savoy. (I assume they are close with similar lengths and weights)
Thanks again for the review & I love how you can now claim that "swords can cut bricks" :lol: +2 Kandies.
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Post by Grindhouse on Mar 17, 2012 13:40:27 GMT
Very interesting. Based on your comments i think i'll love the blade. Seems like a rather stiff blade, while still being able to flex, but not too much.
I would not like a blade that is too floppy. In the sbg video test of the VA Kriegschwert, the blade seemed very floppy, too flexible for my taste. Didn't seem like a good thruster. I was afraid that the VA savoy would be the same.
So it would seem that the savoy might be the stiffest blade from VA ?
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Post by Aaron on Mar 17, 2012 22:45:16 GMT
To be fair, neither the Kreigschwert (XIIa) nor the Savoy (XIIIa) are designed to be good thrusters. They are very much (especially the Savoy) designed to be dedicated cutters. This generally requires a fairly flexible blade.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2012 2:39:23 GMT
Great Review. I've been waiting for someone to do a full detail on the sword for a while so thank you so much. The Savoy is my first and, for the moment anyway, only sword so I don't have much to compare it to but I would say that, while I love the scabbard, I absolutely adore the sword itself. It really is a joy to hold and look at - maybe its just "first love". I concur with everyone else that the sword is fairly stiff (would not call it at all "floppy"), and that, while not paper cutting sharp, is a more than capable cutter (at least against water bottles - and apparently stone ). While I can swing it with one hand without too much difficulty, it probably leans more towards long sword than bastard sword. Thanks again, NightRaid. It sounds like you enjoy the sword as much as I do. Also, I'm really proud to here that the sword is mightier than brick (I hope I never have the chance to disprove that). Attachments:
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Post by Grindhouse on Mar 19, 2012 12:28:01 GMT
Nice stand The Pen. How come your Savoy doesnt have the punch out on the crossguard ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2012 15:46:07 GMT
Thanks so much, Grindhouse. The stand was made for me by my girlfriend's grandfather (my girlfriend, incidentally, now wants her own sword). I'll let him know it was admired.
I bought the sword through VA's Custom Sword Shop and had Sonny plug in the piercings for me. I just wanted a slightly simpler look (I almost had him replace the cross guard for a more traditional type 2 but, in the end, those bow-ties really spoke to me).
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Post by Grindhouse on Mar 19, 2012 16:34:26 GMT
How long did it take for you guys to receive your package ? I paid for mine one week ago, directly to Sonny, (without any customisation), and he confirmed me that he received my payment, but he hasn't replyed to any mails after, and i don't know if my sword is shipped out. I thought it was in stock when i ordered it, but now i'm not sure.
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Post by chrisperoni on Mar 19, 2012 16:59:07 GMT
the CSS website says this: "Do (sic) to the pre-orders in the que plus the fact that we allow a certain amount of customization, Please allow 2-4 weeks for shipping and delivery." And I know Sonny is full up with orders- has been pretty much since the latest stock came in. Even though you haven't asked for customization per se he would still have to colour your leathers and therefore place you in the queue in order. I believe the CSS prepares undyed blanks for each part of the rig. When they supply 2nd party sellers such as SBG they sell finished pieces. Hence why no colour option is available through these other sellers, but Sonny's in stock products all are awaiting some customization options. -of course this is my conjecture and so if Sonny says otherwise believe him (naturally ) My current order is at about 4 weeks right now and last week Sonny advised me I was on deck this week- but my order has some small extras mind you.
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Post by Grindhouse on Mar 19, 2012 17:25:58 GMT
Ok. initially he told me that ''shipping time from us will be within 2 weeks''. I guess he meant that it would ship out within two weeks. But i havent had news from him for a week, so i don't know what to expect. But hopefully, if it's really 2 weeks, then it should leave like friday 23 or monday 26 march.
I'm not worried though. Just wish i could have an update from him.
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