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Post by Charl on Mar 2, 2012 10:37:59 GMT
Hi guys and girls, Just a quick question for your pro's out there, I have what i believe is a Global Gear Chikara like the one reviewed on the main site but a few things are different as seen in my weapons collection thread. forum.sword-buyers-guide.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=9672My main concern is with the blade itself. Apparently the hamon is supposed to look like this: but there is no hamon to be found anywhere on mine... Now, is it there, hidden under the polished steel? If so, what can i do to make it reveal itself. I do need to sharpen the sword as well, as can be seen in this video.
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Post by zentesukenVII on Mar 2, 2012 16:05:43 GMT
Take a few pieces of paper and try to cut them. Its hard to tell with only one cut. another thing you can do is hold the blade edge up and line it up with a light. If you see light reflect on the edge, its dull.
As for bringing out the hamon, if its the right sword, and actually does hava a hamon it should come out if you start to polish it to 2000-3000 grit sandpaper, start lower though, like 1000. After that polish with mothers mag.
After its nice and mirror like, yo can go ahead and clean your sword off with window glass cleaner. then take white vinegar mix it with 25% dish soap, heat it up in the microwave for like 20 seconds, mix it up good and apply it to the blade with a cloth of any kind.
Make sure your blade is VERY clean when you do this. It will cause a slight speed rust effect, which for some reason brings out the hamon like its nobodies business.
After that take a bit of mother mag polish and wipe down the blade to remove excess rust, but don't do it too hard or you'll have to start over again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2012 17:44:46 GMT
If it does has a real Hamon, why not polish it correctly.
Buy some laquered Hazua stone that has been ground down to finger stones at 175-200 microns thick or gring laquered Hazua down yourself.
Make a paste with sodium Bicarbone and by rubbing two stone together, this is a lubricating paste.
You can then cut your laquered Hazua into small round and oval discs and follow the Hamon rubbing length wise, once further improvement can't be seen, the Hamon line can be polished with a Nugui.
If you want to do this P.M me for the full description, at leat this way you'll have a real Hamon instaed of a fake one.
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Post by jhart06 on Mar 2, 2012 17:54:33 GMT
Etching a hamon that is already there somehow causes it to be a fake hamon versus using stones and paste making it real? I'm a euro guy here, for the most part, but I wasn't aware of the distinction...
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Post by zentesukenVII on Mar 2, 2012 18:06:33 GMT
Well you can make a hamon more prominent (A real one) using vinegar. you can also create a fake one using vinegar, just in a different way.
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Post by Charl on Mar 2, 2012 18:38:59 GMT
Ive read alot of posts about the real vs fake hamon, and this blade was purchased from GG as the G-901. But while inspecting pics in the review on the main site, the fuchi and kashira are different, the saya is different. I wonder if GG did a dodgy with this blade or what? As for the hamon, only time will tell if its there as im going to try and bring it out anyway! Ill PM Longbow 69 for more details but i dont know how easily available those stones will be here in Australia!
Oh and I just checked and the only part of the blade that will cut paper is the Kissaki. I have cut ALOT of bamboo with this blade over the years though!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2012 21:09:33 GMT
I'm not sure I'd do that on an intact Hamon or a reasonable sword like a Hanwei, a Hamon should be white, the acetic acid etch darkens it.
But I know what you mean about a repair, especially if the individual had no experience in polishing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2012 21:13:17 GMT
As ZTK says, the vinegar (acetic acid) should show it up staright away unless it's been rough ground on 220 grit. So. if the swords polished just rub some vinegar on from a vinegar soaked cloth in an inconspicuous place.
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Post by George on Mar 2, 2012 21:20:25 GMT
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Post by lamebmx on Mar 2, 2012 21:50:16 GMT
Why not just do that polish 1 more time. Take a bunch of pictures during it. Write up a how to for this section.
1 good time instead of writing 50pm's everytime someone asks, you can just link them to your how to.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2012 22:20:21 GMT
There is no way i am going to polish that blade one more time, however, I could show what I did without actually polishing the blade, it will take some time, but I'll do it.
I wouldn't attempt this unless you have some knowlege of polishing or a damaged Hamon, it would be easy to wreck a perfectly good blade.
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Post by zentesukenVII on Mar 2, 2012 23:08:25 GMT
Yeah the whole stones thing is really something you have to do A LOT of practice with as far as I know. I would just use sandpaper for now, its not a very expensive blade is it? Btw, I made a tutorial on how to create a fake hamon if you want to do that if the sword turns out to be TH. viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9853
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Post by Charl on Mar 2, 2012 23:50:28 GMT
I bought it from GG, it came in the wooden GG box with a handle and hinges and hasps. also got a certificate with it a stand and a cleaning kit and sword bag....
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Post by George on Mar 3, 2012 1:26:31 GMT
Was it recently? Perhaps its their new V3? Mine was a V2 and the review on this site is V1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2012 1:36:03 GMT
Interesting, the higher end of the Global Gear swords all pretty well use the same blades, and they all have a very prominent hamon, the one on my GG Sakura v2 stands out quite prominently!
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Post by Charl on Mar 3, 2012 1:53:13 GMT
I bought it approximately 5 years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2012 11:46:06 GMT
You didn't polish away the visible hamon at any point? Or was it never there to begin with? Did they miss the etch process that brings the hamon out by some chance? If it's been differentially hardened, which it would be, it will have a hamon, just may not be visible!
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Post by Charl on Mar 6, 2012 10:30:43 GMT
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Post by lamebmx on Mar 6, 2012 10:55:02 GMT
Nice! I cant say I have tried water on paper, with stones it does not evaporate fast. Baking soda in the water will prevent rusting. And make your hands feel all kinds of funny lol. Just some tips you might already know when you make the transition to stones. Did you try an etch after getting this higher level of polish?
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Post by Charl on Mar 6, 2012 11:04:51 GMT
I did try the warm water and dish soap thing, but it didnt work, got bubbles on the blade and it ended up looking terrible so i polished it with metal polish to clean it up then cleaned the blade again and tried again with no bubbles, but it just didnt seem to be revealing anything, maybe i was doing it wrong?
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