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Post by whazzzup on Feb 16, 2012 12:19:19 GMT
i have recently acquired a kaze and am wondering if there is a way of polishing or enhancing the natural lines of the blade i have seen the posts on how to use vinegar and dish-washing liquid to form a fake hammon but i dont think thats what i want to do. is it enough to use wet and dry 2000 grit sandpaper or is there something elles?? i want to do this myself,i just wonder about the technique i need to use.. if anyone out there could help me or has done something a similar project would much appreciate any help given .thanks
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Post by Bradleee42 on Feb 16, 2012 16:04:12 GMT
I'm sure that others will have thier own input, but from I understand, you have to completely un-polish the blade, then move your way upwards in grits (sandpaper) Ive got 2000 grit, and it still just leaves more scratches. I DO believe you have to get up to 4000 to 8000 grit. ....and alot of man hours. Just keep this in mind...this is not going to be something that just "suddenly appears" , there will be a long time of polishing up and down, back and forth, until the mirror finish is achieved. If it works, please post pics and your " how you did, and how to's" I'm sure there is a good amount of folks on here that would love to see it from begining to end. Best of luck to you.
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Post by whazzzup on Feb 16, 2012 20:40:39 GMT
no i have nt done anything it is brand new out of the box i was worried about what i had at first,, due to a lot of grease on the blade but i wiped down the blade with some wd40 and the blade seemed ok all the fittings were tight and the blade looks centered and strait good fitting into the saya a few scratches along the blade spine the mune is kinda ridgy when you look along it but the kissaki is not good at all its like the forger took a smoke brake and forgot where he was at.. maybe there smoking something else than tobaco over there in china but all in all im happy i know i can work on the kissaki and smoth it out im just wondering about how to proceed keep them comments comming
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Post by Mikeeman on Feb 16, 2012 22:36:53 GMT
I posted the exact same thing in the customization section. Apparently nobody knows because nobody replied.
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Post by Jakeonthekob on Feb 16, 2012 22:55:34 GMT
To bring out the hamon like factory polishes, sandpaper up to 6000 and acid etching is good enough. Traditional methods require an uchigumori stone as well as finger stones (hazuya and jizuya). They're very expensive though and you should only invest in these if you want to be an amateur togishi or professional togishi.
You are looking at a lot of hours of labor man. GL and share the results with us!
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Post by frankthebunny on Feb 17, 2012 1:30:39 GMT
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Post by lamebmx on Feb 17, 2012 2:13:04 GMT
I may be wrong, but those methods will also enhance a real hamon. I see people posted the information again but no-one really pointed out that the method to etch a fake hamon is virtually the same as enhancing an already existing hamon. Cept you dont really draw the hamon yourself.
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Post by Jakeonthekob on Feb 17, 2012 16:35:23 GMT
Just follow what frank said. Acid etching enhances natural hamons as well.
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Post by Mikeeman on Feb 17, 2012 21:10:50 GMT
That's where I keep having trouble. For some reason, I can't get acid etches to work. That's why I wanted to know about how to polish them out instead of etching.
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Post by lamebmx on Feb 17, 2012 21:30:38 GMT
as a test warm blade and warm stronger acid (ferric acid I think from radio shack. used to etch printed circuit boards) do a simple line, like 1/2 inch, and watch. if the hamon is there it has (should - still a bit of a noob to say anything with much authority) to be possible to view via etch. the different structures are going to oxidize at different rates. then bam they will all have the same level of oxidation. Even the traditional method use this I am pretty sure the jizuya (or whatever) stones have a bit of a catalyst. traditionaly they also use substance to bring out the grain etc. one of which i have learned (though the internet and we all know how accurate that is) finely ground refridgerator magnets. they stick in the little nooks and crannies of the folding grain and make it stand out more. Of course this is all internet based learning with very little applied knowledge. though i was planning on trying to etch out my KC's after some test cutting. Oh and it is tempered by some college chemistry coursework (was going for chemical engineering so its not chem for business majors)
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Post by whazzzup on Feb 21, 2012 19:18:56 GMT
i started to sand the whole blade with 1200 grade cause there were some deep scratches on the blade and mune then went 1500 and down to 2000 grit then i used some really fine long strand steel wool over the whole blade i cant seem to find any shop that has any finer paper than 2000. it looks ok but the whole blade is shinny i thought the hamon would be more pronounced by doing this, but its not... help!!!!
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Feb 21, 2012 20:25:34 GMT
I found up to 2500 grit at my local O'Reilly Auto Store. Maybe there?
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Post by frankthebunny on Feb 21, 2012 21:29:31 GMT
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Post by whazzzup on Feb 22, 2012 10:15:06 GMT
thank you again !!!!!! to all who posted i will send some pictures when im close to being done or at least when im finished it is coming along quite well i think,spent some hours on it last night it is amazing when your concentrating on something how the time goes so fast anyway thank you again for all your help....
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