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Post by THE_SUPERWEIRDO on Nov 25, 2011 19:17:36 GMT
While I was searching at Trueswords.com looking at their Musashi swords line (On a tight budget), this caught my attention: www.trueswords.com/dark+knights+ ... -sxnd.html What makes me wonder is the reviews I read was pretty decent, but most complianed about the Duel Tang, which I learned from numerous reviews here: "A REAL SWORD HAS A FULL-TANG!" - SBG Does anybody own this, or knows someone who does? Because my question is: Is this sword that durable to be qualified as "Battle-ready", or can it atleast cut some light targets? If it does, the sword looks awesome and am looking forward on buying it ......
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Post by Voltan on Nov 25, 2011 23:51:47 GMT
The following is the description of the tang construction from Trueswords:
"Dual tang supports provide a sound construction from end to end. The blade tang extends 5 1/4 in. into the 6 1/4 in. hardwood handle and is secured through the handle with a thick bamboo peg located under the cord wrapping, much like the construction of a functional katana. A steel rod is then fixed to the end of the tang and extends though the balance of the handle, connecting the tang to the pommel (end cap). These two tang supports work in unison to create a functional one handed medieval broad sword."
I am in no way an expert, but that sounds a little scary to me. My impression of a "functional" or "battle-ready" medieval sword would be "full-tang", in which the tang is an extension of the blade and affixed to the pommel by peening, recessed nut or threaded. I am not at all familiar with the dual tang design, but like I said, I am in no way an expert.
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Post by Todash on Nov 26, 2011 1:24:05 GMT
Hey, I'm fairly new to swords and such, but from what I have learned on here the statement "A steel rod is then fixed to the end of the tang and extends though the balance of the handle, connecting the tang to the pommel (end cap)" makes me nervous. I'm sure others will be able to help you more with information on it.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Nov 26, 2011 1:45:48 GMT
It sounds like either a tang extension (which can be fine if done right, from what I've heard) or a rat-tail tang, in which case I would suggest staying far away. Frankly, I'd suggest staying far away from those particular swords anyways. If you want a functional medieval sword on a tight budget, Weirdo, I'd suggest looking into the old Hanwei CAS Iberia line; they're not the best looking or handling, but they're functional and, I daresay, a lot hardier than those things. They're cheaper, too. There's the Agincourt, Celtic, Hand and a Half, Henry V, Mercenary, and War Sword. Personally, I'd recommend saving up for a Hanwei Tinker, but if that's beyond your ability (I know that when you're not making a lot, 50-80$ might as well be hundreds), these can provide a decent, inexpensive alternative. Plus, if something's wrong with them, Kult of Athena has a 45 day return policy, provided you haven't cut with it.
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Post by THE_SUPERWEIRDO on Nov 26, 2011 3:10:37 GMT
Thanks for the heads up, I had a nervous feeling about the tang to, I'll stay away from it. Vincent, I remembered my first post about those swords( and I also remember you replying to it, too :lol: ), I'm just choosing the right one and still searching on some better cheap, functional medieval swords. Thank you for all your helpful info!
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Nov 26, 2011 3:12:39 GMT
Yeah, they CAS Iberias aren't going to be the best by any means, but if you can't afford a Tinker, they're probably better than something from a no-name forge.
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Post by THE_SUPERWEIRDO on Nov 26, 2011 3:22:36 GMT
Basically, I want a cheap, fully-functional medieval sword that has good handling, a certain blade geometry, and is fairly light, so it might be the Tinker (If I have enough cash), the Agincourt, or the war sword. Maybe even the River...... Well, thanks again for the advice!
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Post by SeanF on Nov 26, 2011 3:37:35 GMT
You could make a functional sword using the 'Duel Tang' system, but it would probably be significantly more work that a full tang. The only cost advantages I can see are if it is not made up to snuff.
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Post by jhart06 on Nov 26, 2011 4:13:08 GMT
Seen it in person.. The 'damascus is crap and either a really shite job at acid etching to bring out the pattern, or a weird process of annealing or enameling.. The blade surface felt uttely wierd and tacky (beyond the oil the vendor put on them) and it just did NOT feel right in the hands.
Though, the tackiness could have been due to 125 degree + weather and the oil on a bare blade in direct sunlight, i'd take a freaking windlass conan sword over this one.
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