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Post by Dave Kelly on Nov 20, 2011 5:30:49 GMT
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Nov 20, 2011 6:45:49 GMT
That's a real beauty there, Dave. Out of curiosity, what's the POB on these? Based on the Officer's on the POB stand, I'd venture a guess of about 5-6"?
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Post by William Swiger on Nov 20, 2011 8:46:24 GMT
Nice purchase. Been thinking about getting a sabre for the collection but want only one. Of course, want a nice one.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Nov 20, 2011 13:14:56 GMT
The Custom 1860 Coulaux has a 6.25 in PoB. Sword weighs 2.1 lbs. Very streamlined, smaller hilt.
The longer 1875 is also a Coulaux, but basically French reg. It has a 4.25 PoB. Sword weighs 2.3 lbs.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Nov 20, 2011 13:18:50 GMT
Yeah, and I was gonna stop at something like 32 swords. Given the horde you just laid out on the acquisitions site, ya think ya can just "want" one once you get it in hand? "Warning, warning Will Robinson. Danger, danger!!"  |
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Post by William Swiger on Nov 20, 2011 13:40:33 GMT
I have a bunch of stuff to sell whenever I get around to it. I have accumulated most of the newer stuff over a longer span but can only get the pictures when the wife actually leaves me by myself at the house which is almost never. She is not a fan of the collection. Seriously - what cav sabre would you recommend if I was only going to pick up one? Best looking and handling. |
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Post by Dave Kelly on Nov 20, 2011 15:07:12 GMT
That is a terribly tough thing for me to answer for you.
What period? Style? Weight you consider comfortable? Price point? You talking a yard cutter or a historic collection piece?
Personal Favourites:
Swiss 1880 Enlisted Cav Saber: Lightened version of their 1867. Based on the Austrian 1858 heavy. Very nice handling. Blade still big enough to do damage percussively.
French 1822 lights: 36 inches of blade. Big hilt. but only 2.3 lbs. Agile thrust and slash saber.
British 1821/22 Cav Off Sabres: Several variants. Also Spainish made by Ballesteros for Spain and Portugal Armies.
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Post by William Swiger on Nov 20, 2011 15:32:11 GMT
Thanks Dave - will keep an eye out from your favorites list.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Nov 20, 2011 15:45:57 GMT
If you find a vg conditioned Swiss you don't want to buy personally let me know. I've got a good one now, but would pounce on an 1867 or 80 if I could find one. Ones I've seen in the last two years on ebay are all pretty beaten up.
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Post by mattf10 on Feb 25, 2018 2:07:34 GMT
I know this is an older thread but I just wanted to express my gratitude to you Dave for making it. I collect 19th century French swords and sabers and I picked up one of these at an auction recently for a great price. I wasn’t exactly sure what it was other than it was from Klingenthal, the inscription and poicons were correct, and it kind of resembled a m1822 officers but at the same time wasn’t. After searching the internet endlessly to find out what it was I finally stumbled on this thread. The only difference between mine and yours is that mine has a poincon on the guard I am not sure about. It is an E.L with 3 stars over it in an oval. After doing research I’ve seen conflicting theory’s of who this poincon belonged to. Some say it was from Etienne Le’on the Paris cutler and some say it’s from E. Lyon the French exporter. I would like to know your opinion on this issue. I’ll attach some photos.   |
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 25, 2018 3:05:19 GMT
I know this is an older thread but I just wanted to express my gratitude to you Dave for making it. I collect 19th century French swords and sabers and I picked up one of these at an auction recently for a great price. I wasn’t exactly sure what it was other than it was from Klingenthal, the inscription and poicons were correct, and it kind of resembled a m1822 officers but at the same time wasn’t. After searching the internet endlessly to find out what it was I finally stumbled on this thread. The only difference between mine and yours is that mine has a poincon on the guard I am not sure about. It is an E.L with 3 stars over it in an oval. After doing research I’ve seen conflicting theory’s of who this poincon belonged to. Some say it was from Etienne Le’on the Paris cutler and some say it’s from E. Lyon the French exporter. I would like to know your opinion on this issue. I’ll attach some photos. I was thinking it might be a Brussels buy, then I found this. None of my french pubs show this marque. Export marque perhaps. Hope this helps. Cheers! |
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Post by pgandy on Feb 25, 2018 3:29:49 GMT
Looks like a nice addition. Congratulations.
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Post by Pino on Feb 27, 2018 14:32:19 GMT
EL stamp is for Etienne Leon, whose shop operated in Paris from 1836 to the 1870's. Did lots of private purchase/custom officer swords then his widow took over the business and was around during the 2nd Empire.
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Post by mattf10 on Feb 28, 2018 0:19:53 GMT
Thanks everyone I appreciate the information. I was asking because I’ve seen a few swords pop up for sale recently that have the B under the crown, S in the shield (not shown on the Klingenthal poincon list), and the E.L. Stamps on them and the sellers all seem to claim these swords as civil war imports.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 1:19:20 GMT
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Post by Jordan Williams on Feb 28, 2018 4:45:57 GMT
There were quite a few of those style of 1850 foot on eBay a while back. Went cheaply too.
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