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Post by TattooMagic on Sept 30, 2011 4:02:34 GMT
ok i done made up my mind im getting a Musashi 1060 katana for my first blade. here my prob i hear that a Bo-hi makes the blad weaker so here are the two swords im looking at. one with bo-hi and one with out ... is one better then the other? www.trueswords.com/musashi-1060- ... -5895.html www.trueswords.com/musashi-1060- ... -4896.html so if one is better then the other plz let me know.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2011 4:21:30 GMT
Oooh, I like the first one. I hadn't seen it before---it's very nice. I don't know why but I don't like the saya on the "bamboo". I'd go with a different color saya if you choose that one. I like the fittings on both, so for me it would come down to whether I wanted it no-hi or bo-hi
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Post by TattooMagic on Sept 30, 2011 4:25:42 GMT
yeah i dont know if the bo-hi makes the blade weaker or not . i kinda like the first one two the brown saya and wrap look nice.. but i do like the red aswell
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Sept 30, 2011 4:35:24 GMT
A bo-hi will marginally weaken a blade. With a Musashi, with its already light blade I'm not sure I'd opt for a bo-hi model if I was going to cut at all. Not that it's not capable of light cutting, but I feel like I'd be pushing it. This is just a personal opinion. My brother has the $50 1045 model, it has a bo-hi and is capable of light cutting but it is also TH so it's not as prone to edge damage and severe sets as a DH.
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Sept 30, 2011 4:48:37 GMT
I would also like to just say that when I refer to the Musashi as having a lighter or weaker blade, it is only comparatively. Genuine Nihonto blades don't really resemble blades found on most of todays' production katana. I believe that a forumite once said that many would find the blade of a real Japanese katana "quaint," as it is not as beefy as the blades we buy. Modern producers of lower-end production katana make them thicker and heavier than most authentic pieces in order to make them more "fool-proof" for the untrained collector/user. They're harder to damage.
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Post by TattooMagic on Sept 30, 2011 4:50:17 GMT
Yay!!!! jordan the guy i wanted to see... so out of the 2 i posted what would you pick... they only have one none bo-hi modle. but it has no Reviews and i dont know why would you mind takeing a look at the 2 i posted and i will be cutting with it
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Sept 30, 2011 4:51:20 GMT
I would go with a model that has no bo-hi.
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Sept 30, 2011 4:52:22 GMT
HaHA! Now if i could just get that reaction everywhere I go.
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Post by TattooMagic on Sept 30, 2011 4:54:02 GMT
nice ok thats what i was thinking as well. it look to me every things the same but just no bo-hi.. i love the brown only thing i dont like is the rope on the saya how hard is that to redo with something eles
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Sept 30, 2011 4:59:05 GMT
Not hard at all. It's called a sageo and they are found in abundance. Swordnarmory has a decent chemical fiber one in brown for only $1.48 a foot with free shipping. An average one is only 6 or 7 feet long.
There are many more, from about $20 to over $100.
Also, go ahead and call me Adrian.
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Post by frankthebunny on Sept 30, 2011 5:00:08 GMT
the no hi choice certainly looks much nicer than the 1060 I owned in the past. as a.jordan already mentioned, the musashi 1060's are known to be light and agile swords and bo hi only slightly reduce the blade weight. the design of the bo hi allows for the reduction without drastically sacrificing the strength (or they would never really be used in battle). if you would be using this sword to learn form then having a bo hi could be a great help by giving you an audible report when aligned properly in the swing. since these models look newer I couldn't say for sure how they handle. the only other issue I know of from personal experience (with the 1060 bamboo warrior) would be the edge hardness, or in my case, lack there of. mine was chipped and the blade took a set while cutting regular water bottles, then again I could have hit a cap or it could have just been a lemon with poor clay tempering.
I would say that for $80 this one would be a very nice looking and capable cutter for pool noodles, gallon bottles and beach mats. hmmm.....thinking about picking one of these lookers up myself
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Post by TattooMagic on Sept 30, 2011 5:04:45 GMT
so you think the no bo-hi modle is the way to go? and sorry what does it mean when a blade takes a set? and should i be worried that the no bo-hi modle has no reviews
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Sept 30, 2011 5:06:01 GMT
A set is a bend. Thankfully, most bends are easily fixed by putting it over your knee and straightening it.
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Post by TattooMagic on Sept 30, 2011 5:06:16 GMT
nice thank you if i get the no bo-hi ill pick some of that brown up. and should i be worried that the no bo-hi modle has no reviews?
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Post by TattooMagic on Sept 30, 2011 5:07:10 GMT
like as in the hole blade bent on a water bottle :shock:
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Sept 30, 2011 5:09:06 GMT
Not really. The Bugei Samurai is amazing but has few reviews. It just means that most who have bought this haven't written about it.
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Sept 30, 2011 5:09:58 GMT
No worries. Even a top-flight blade will bend if the angle of the cut is bad, even on a water bottle.
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Post by TattooMagic on Sept 30, 2011 5:11:04 GMT
bugei? you mean this one right? Musashi - 1060 Carbon Steel - Speckled Burgundy Katana w/o Bo-hi
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Post by frankthebunny on Sept 30, 2011 5:12:06 GMT
I wouldn't be concerned about the lack of reviews personally just because of the reputation the general line has. it's been known as a great beginner or general beater sword line for years.
a set can be a small or large single bend or a crooked bend. it doesn't flex back on it's own so it's set
a through hardened blade would have a greater resistance to this kind of semi-permanent bend but trades edge hardness or edge retention.*this is a very general overview, there are a lot of specifics and variables*
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Sept 30, 2011 5:13:33 GMT
I was just using Bugei as an example. They are the top end of the production market. Like over $1200 a piece for a cheap one top end. A lack of reviews is not indicative of a bad sword.
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