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Post by thorn3 on Sept 19, 2011 5:55:35 GMT
Hello,
I want to compare the Cold Steel two handed Gim, to the Jin Shi Han Jian.
Does anyone have the specs for both the Jin Shi Han Jian and the Cold Steel two handed Gim?
I have not seen specs regarding either sword. The only data I have seen is the steel they are made of. The Jin Shi website has little data on any of their swords. Is their website still under development, even after all this time they have been in business? Or, am I missing something?
The Cold Steel website 'mentions' the two handed Gim, but they do not post any data regarding it, nor the price. I believe the only data available is for the Gim in general... the shorter one, but nothing for the two handed version. Doing an internet search does not yield any results.
Thanks
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Sept 19, 2011 6:29:58 GMT
Hi, Thorn; regarding the Cold Steel two-handed gim, it's been out of production for several years now. I don't remember how long, exactly, but if you go to their website and browse through their old catalogs, you'll be able to find it. As for Jin-Shi, I believe Garrett has gone strictly custom, so there won't be any stats for it. However, there's a review of it on the old site here. Hope that helps.
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Post by thorn3 on Sept 20, 2011 4:45:21 GMT
Thanks Vincent for the reply. I thought I posted a reply earlier, but it didn't show up (New to the forum). I looked on the Cold Steel website, but didn't see an old catalog. But, if the two handed Gim is not in production anymore, that limits some options.
The Jin Shi Han Jian is my choice in swords. The style is exactly what I am looking for. However, I have a bit of paranoia regarding sword makers I am not familiar with. I own a Cold Steel, Carbon 5 Trail Master that I purchased way back. It has served above and beyond all expectations. I tend to compare the reliability of all bladed weapons/tools to that knife.
I have read two reviews of the Han Jian by Jin Shi. There are two videos I have seen of it as well. They appear impressive. However, I have certain requirements that go far beyond the more common bottle tests. I must explain so it is clear. I was rather rudely greeted by a wild boar while camping on the north shore of the island of Hawaii. The gulches between Waipio and Waimano valleys. All I had on me at the time was my Trail Master. Call it luck, but the boar lost and I gained dinner for a week. Since then, that is the only thing I think of when it comes to a bladed weapon. Will it handle a wild boar? The experience only proved that at some point, a person's life just may depend on it. I would most certainly not go looking to cleave a wild boar in two with a sword. But if the need existed, I would need to know that if I reached for the Han Jian... it would be there for me... and stay in one piece.
I really enjoy the design of the Han Jian. Not being familiar with Jin Shi's blades, I initially thought that if it came down to it, I could always replace the original Han Jian blade with a Cold Steel, two handed Gim blade. They appear similar enough.... with a bit of rework in my shop. Thus my wish to know the specs on both blades before making a purchase. I would rather not have to make such a change to the Han Jian, but lacking any information that proves its reliability in long term, heavy use... I am up in the air about it.
Has anyone used a Jin Shi Han Jian for a long period of time, under heavy use? What is the result? All I have seen are stress tests that happen right after the sword is received. What about a year of more down the road?
I don't mind paying more money for a good sword blade. Can anyone suggest the most appropriate steel and method of manufacture? If I purchase a custom Han Jian, I would want the blade to be the very best it can be.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Sept 20, 2011 5:11:25 GMT
Ah, well, lucky you got out of that safely. As for the CS catalogs: just go to Cold Steel's website > F.A.Q. > Previous Catalogs, but I'll save you the trouble. The specs on the old gim are 48 3/8" overall with a 35" 1050 carbon steel blade; I know what it's like to find out about something only after it's been discontinued. I still wish I could get a hold of their Chinese saber (a liuyedao).
Anyways, Garrett of Jin Shi is a pretty well respected name around here, but alas, I'm not really the person to ask about him or what would get the best bang for your buck with your requirements since I've never dealt with him. Regarding heavy use, I'm not sure too many people have subjected their swords to heavy use by any real means of the word, except for Paul (the founder of this site) who occasionally does destruction tests on swords.
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Post by Sir Tre on Sept 23, 2011 15:40:03 GMT
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