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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2008 1:20:40 GMT
and my forearms are killin' me!
This was my second time at the dojo but what I'd really consider my first actual class, as the first was dojo orientation.
I swung a sword and a huge bokken for about 2 hours and I have a gig tonight... I can barely hold a jug of milk heh.
I think I really am going to like it, but my over 40 a** needs to get in better shape.
Any one else here start JSA at a late age? just wonderin' if we're scarce or if there's more than a few of us.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2008 1:57:22 GMT
I hear you mate, due to any overseas move and a unavailablity of a certain school's teaching, I was recommended to start the koryu I am currently learning (Shinto muso ryu). While being in my thirties I never feel like I am struggling but I find swimming helps loads with fluidity and upper-body strength. After I train, I swim. Never fails.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2008 2:28:55 GMT
I am with you here Riggins. I have been doing Toyama Ryu & Niten ichi for a year now, also I have just started studying with the naginata as well. And I started when I was 37.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2008 15:30:27 GMT
I hear you mate, due to any overseas move and a unavailablity of a certain school's teaching, I was recommended to start the koryu I am currently learning (Shinto muso ryu). While being in my thirties I never feel like I am struggling but I find swimming helps loads with fluidity and upper-body strength. After I train, I swim. Never fails. Being that the community pool is about a block from here, as soon as the weather stabilizes here I'm going to start swimming too. I know I'm in Florida but in the wintertime it's too unpredictable to be able to swim on a regular schedule. Especially at 5:30 AM before work. I swam a lot in college and I know it'd be great for getting me back in shape. Voyager423, what kind of shape were you in when you started? I'm not in what I'd consider poor shape, but let's say it's less than stellar
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2008 23:11:08 GMT
Riggins,
Lets just say that I wasn't in the best of shape but the classes and a healthier diet have definatly helped me get into better shape.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2008 19:20:33 GMT
Yeah, I'm fifty and I am taking Nakamura-ryu. I am feeling it not so much in the forearms but in the back and the shoulders. Ice and Advil are my friends!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2008 19:21:52 GMT
and my forearms are killin' me! This was my second time at the dojo but what I'd really consider my first actual class, as the first was dojo orientation. I swung a sword and a huge bokken for about 2 hours and I have a gig tonight... I can barely hold a jug of milk heh. I think I really am going to like it, but my over 40 a** needs to get in better shape. Any one else here start JSA at a late age? just wonderin' if we're scarce or if there's more than a few of us. Yeah you'll be sore for few classes
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2008 22:06:08 GMT
Yeah, I'm fifty and I am taking Nakamura-ryu. I am feeling it not so much in the forearms but in the back and the shoulders. Ice and Advil are my friends! I hear ya. Iced my wrists and hands yesterday for a good bit. And I've got some prescription naproxen from the wife, but haven't used it yet. Good to know there are a few late starters like myself though, gives me encouragement
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Post by zacaroni on Jan 15, 2008 4:05:23 GMT
Age not so much as wear is what bogs us down. Accumulation of years of other activity other than martial training is not so much a learning curve as it is a "health" curve. The system must be purged.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2008 19:40:27 GMT
Age not so much as wear is what bogs us down. Accumulation of years of other activity other than martial training is not so much a learning curve as it is a "health" curve. The system must be purged. I've recently realized that when I was a younger man, and my health and conditioning wasn't even in question, I wouldn't have had the patience or have been able to appreciate what I now enjoy so much in Iaido at my current age. I guess it's true what they say, youth is wasted on the young! (well, most of the young, there are many bright young fella's on this sight here that I wouldn't lump in with the majority
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2008 22:40:42 GMT
I totally hear you. I started up a JSA a few months ago, and am totally out of shape, not getting any kind of regular exersize before this. After the first two classes my arms and shoulders were sore, but then after that the muscles got used to it and they are not so sore. I'm in my 30s and have other physical health issues and could stand to loose a little weight. Lets just say I've lost nearly 20 lbs after starting JSA, which is great and I love the exersize and learning something.
Swimming is a great form of exersize for keeping the joints moving and building up strength, with out the impact and weight on the body like other things. Good carteo as well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2008 4:16:46 GMT
I was very sore when I started ninjutsu, mostly because I have no real cushioning because I am skin and bones. I still can't do a sideways roll properly without hurting myself so I have decided that I won't be trying any sideways rolls in combat anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2008 22:27:53 GMT
well, I don't get as sore for as long as I did the first couple of times, but I did mess my wrists up enough to have to skip class today. I hate missing class too. over enthusiastically working in gyaku-kesa. Now I can't touch a sword for about another week
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2008 13:43:44 GMT
Any one else here start JSA at a late age? just wonderin' if we're scarce or if there's more than a few of us. Yep, started last year at 50. Sensei and I have major scheduling conflicts, so only 5 lessons in as many months. Finding someone in this area to teach JSA was difficult and these are private lessons because there don't appear to be a whole lot of students either. What I'm doing is probably classified as Kenjutsu, definitely not Iaido. I'm also not in the best physical condition but have been practicing Tae Kwon Do regularly for 2 years and am not a total wreck. Good luck with your Iaido.
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Post by salvatore on Feb 25, 2008 9:07:28 GMT
Hey, I study Toyama-ryu! Nice to meet ya *shakes hand* Lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2008 15:58:12 GMT
Thanks Alant. BTW, I have the Black Knight doll in your avatar ;D
I didn't know you did Toyama Ryu Sal! Now I have someone to bounce class specific things off of in this forum. How long you been in it?
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Post by salvatore on Feb 26, 2008 1:32:01 GMT
I actually was inspired by Hataya sensei.
If you haven't seen it, take a look. His tameshigiri is sooo amazing!
I decided to study it after seeing Hataya sensei, and I have been at it for 2 years. I used to just have no regard for the steel I carried, so I retired my kaze, picked up a bokken, and now I am much better from when I started. I clean my kaze once a month or so(No humidity right now, too cold), and I do not cut with a steel sword anymore.
After watching the tameshigiri demonstration, I guess I realized that even I was ignoring an aspect of a 1000 year tradition.
Safe to say, I felt a bit like a jerk. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2008 12:47:12 GMT
Not sure what my sensei's ties to Hataya Sensei are, either full instruction or seminars by him. But we've got a few videos of them in class in Orlando in the early '90s that we sometimes watch after class while having our tea. He's amazing. This is the video that finally got me off of the couch and signed up for Toyama Ryu: you might have seen it if you've searched for these kinds of vids before. Not blazingly fast, but the form is undeniable.
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Post by salvatore on Feb 27, 2008 7:26:04 GMT
Yeah I've seen it, it is excellent. His skill is amazing. In all his tameshigiri videos, he ends by cutting down the little tree...thing(Is it bamboo? I cannot tell ).
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Post by tajima on Feb 28, 2008 8:14:47 GMT
Age not so much as wear is what bogs us down. Accumulation of years of other activity other than martial training is not so much a learning curve as it is a "health" curve. The system must be purged. I've recently realized that when I was a younger man, and my health and conditioning wasn't even in question, I wouldn't have had the patience or have been able to appreciate what I now enjoy so much in Iaido at my current age. I guess it's true what they say, youth is wasted on the young! (well, most of the young, there are many bright young fella's on this sight here that I wouldn't lump in with the majority I guess I'll take that as a compliment I started when I was Ken Sei Kan when I was eleven or so...terrible shape. I used to be a tub of lard until I got onto a proper diet and started doing exercise. Now, I wake up at 6:30 AM everyday to either go for a ride or do 100 sit ups before school. Does the body good. Anyway, I started Kobudo when I was...almost thirteen (halfway through last year). I was aching alot. Infact, writing this, I am in agony from Kumi-bo (Sparring) and Kendo technique. Good workout. Get in shape! It's never too late to do it. Just have a goal and strive to reach it. 75% of the time you will fail, but every time you will learn more. Start doing 10 crunches and 10 push ups a day, then 20, then 30, then 40, then 50 and then just keep it balanced. And a good diet helps... Hope I could help a little bit, mate. And it's never too late to start! I mean, when I started, I was a bit of an old codger... Thanks, -Tajima
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