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Post by 14thforsaken on Sept 12, 2011 17:33:55 GMT
It is one of the TAS Mongol bows from Kult of Athena. They are actually very nice. I just did a stupid is all.
My arm feels fine now but I now have a rainbow colored bruise in its place.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Sept 12, 2011 18:57:24 GMT
Armour:
For checking on steel, use a spark test on the tang or a part that you'll be grinding down anyway. To do this you need access to a grinder of some sort, some tool that will bring out sparks from metal. You'll want to look it up online, but in general orange-ish sparks generally indicate a good carbon steel, I think. It's been a while since I looked that up so I could be wrong!
14th, thanks. Hope your arm gets better quick, that can't have been fun...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2011 1:22:00 GMT
Ok, sounds good, no grinder though. What about just something that will ignite a spark, or maybe a liquid solution test of some sort? I'm getting a lot of metal splinters from the clean-up though, so I'm having strong doubts.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Sept 13, 2011 17:36:57 GMT
I'm honestly not sure what a cheap/simple test to tell stainless apart from carbon is beside the spark test; spark testing is particularly useful as it can indicate how much carbon you have in the sword, which is an indication of its metallurgical quality. You could google 'ways to test metal' or something? There may be some simple chemicals you can purchase...
If you're getting a lot of splinters, it's possible that the sword may not even be hardened. Have you tried flexing it?
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Post by Hiroshi on Sept 14, 2011 1:08:43 GMT
if your just testing to see if its stainless or not put a drop of hydrogen peroxide on a part of the blade and leave it for 30 minutes. if nothing happens it's stainless. if there is any color change(darkening) then you know its not stainless.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2011 23:52:46 GMT
I've got the hydrogen peroxide on the Claymore now, and will give it a good flex test after it's done and after I find out how one is done and results obtained. Elheru is that Darker the orange, higher the carbine in the spark test? I'll probably never touch these guys again after seeing that tang, and receiving my first real sword from DSA this week, but they look nice leaning against the wall by the couch. Thanks guys
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2011 0:47:25 GMT
Absolutely no change from the peroxide, looks like stainless. :cry:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2011 21:25:16 GMT
WAIT> then why are my magnets sticking to the blades? NO nickle in the mixture of this steel? Splinters? :roll: I heard of a 4oo series, but that the magnetic properties were minimal :?: Really I'm just wondering if I can make something happen with that claymore. Cool looking sword as is though. +
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Post by 14thforsaken on Sept 16, 2011 21:34:35 GMT
Stainless steel can be magnetized so its not always a surefire test. As a rule of thumb, if I am not sure what the metal is and I can't confirm one way or another if it is stainless or not, I just assume it is. Safer that way. Then again, that may be the voice of painful experience speaking. Sometimes I have no idea how I survive through my teens without losing body parts or doing more damage to myself than I did.
@elheru thanks for the well wishes. It feels pretty much back to normal now. Sadly, I tend to have learn things the hard way. Don't try to do a fast nock and draw on a bow you aren't familiar with especially if you haven't shot one in a few years.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2011 23:37:12 GMT
I'm concluding on a magnetized stainless (sharpening practice)sword. If I run across a forge I might play with it a little but for now I just really like looking at the claymore. The blade on the other ones fun, but if I cant cut with it it's just a tease.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 0:53:53 GMT
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Post by Elheru Aran on Sept 18, 2011 12:46:19 GMT
Weight has more to do than anything with the simple mass of the sword itself; the mix of elements in the steel, whatever steel it may be, is fairly trifling in comparison to the element iron itself, IIRC. It's something like most steels are like almost 90 percent iron if not more? Stainless steel will have at least 10 percent chrome, though, while carbon steels will have varying amounts of carbon (obviously). So the weight is pretty much just the mass of the metal itself, nothing much to do with the proportions of the elements in there.
As for whippiness, that's more a factor of the blade geometry rather than its weight. Basically, a blade with poor geometry will be whippy and otherwise lousy; a blade with good geometry will feel more sturdy and usable.
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