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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2007 7:56:16 GMT
Hi all,
I have a hitting target which consists of a pool noodle with a broomstick in the middle hanging from a tree which I use for training at home when my sparing partner(dad) isn't around. I have recently broken my 4th cheapie bokken from my local martial arts shop the day I got it when using the target . I only use them for sparring at home and in class, Kata and hitting my target (which is as light duty as they come). I am thinking of buying an iron wood Bokken from Cutting edge cutlery for use in the Dojo, I have heard very good things about this iron wood however at $98 I don't think I will be using it for messing about with dad, lol ;D.
My local martial arts store sells both Bokken and Shinai for about $40. Just for messing around at home would a Shinai last me longer than a Bokken?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2007 9:15:29 GMT
Hi all, I have a hitting target which consists of a pool noodle with a broomstick in the middle hanging from a tree which I use for training at home when my sparing partner(dad) isn't around. I have recently broken my 4th cheapie bokken from my local martial arts shop the day I got it when using the target . I only use them for sparring at home and in class, Kata and hitting my target (which is as light duty as they come). I am thinking of buying an iron wood Bokken from Cutting edge cutlery for use in the Dojo, I have heard very good things about this iron wood however at $98 I don't think I will be using it for messing about with dad, lol ;D. My local martial arts store sells both Bokken and Shinai for about $40. Just for messing around at home would a Shinai last me longer than a Bokken? Hello again, in my time I have snapped two red oak bokken. I have two of these they have never let me down. They are Very tough, won't splinter on impact , and are made in Japan from excellent grade White oak. They convert to $AUS35 each. [ftp]http://bokkenshop.com/eng/154.html[/ftp]
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Post by slav on Nov 8, 2007 4:54:48 GMT
With hard hits, shinai can degrade and break pretty quickly. Even just against bogu.
What art are you training for? Kendo, iaido, kenjutsu?
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Post by tajima on Nov 8, 2007 5:17:01 GMT
If you are training for Kendo, I REALLY assure you to use the Shinai. However, cheap ones have a tendency for the bamboo to be knocked out of figure.
But I prefer a bokken if you are just practising various cuts. Sure, Bokken FTW!
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Post by slav on Nov 8, 2007 5:29:28 GMT
If you are training for Kendo, I REALLY assure you to use the Shinai. However, cheap ones have a tendency for the bamboo to be knocked out of figure. Then use a Hasegawa! :Plol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2007 6:23:14 GMT
My friend and i beat the crap out of his shinai and they are still fine, then again we both know what we are doing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2007 18:43:18 GMT
I use bokkens from Century against tires with no problems. I have had other that were less robust from other manufacturers and give up the ghost rather quickly. As far as shinai, I am of little help. Used one for about 5 min and grabbed the bokken again. Just too light and 'flicky' for my taste. Cold steel makes an unbreakable bokken which I have used with good results. It has a little flex to it but you need to napalm to hurt it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2007 8:57:07 GMT
I think I have the bokken nailed with bokken shop, I am in the porgess fo purchasing a couple from them at the moment. I am planning on staring kendo after x-mas so I should do some research and find a good quaility Shinai are there any recomendations? I tried googleing Hasegawa but the results wern't exaclty encouraging.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2007 18:42:18 GMT
As far as shinai go, dont worry about "quality" so much as a beginner. Having expensive equipment is less important than learning basic technique in the beginner phase.
For kendo, a basic bamboo shinai from e-bogu (around 20 USD) will be sufficient. In my experience, i averaged 1 broken slat every 6 months. i kept a spare shinai on hand to use for spare parts.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Dec 31, 2007 23:16:43 GMT
what about those pricey iron wood and the some what less coconut wood bokens
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2007 23:52:05 GMT
Save a (hardwood) tree, use bamboo. Light/flexible/strong. The better bokken sites all supply them, so certainly they're legitimate?
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Post by slav on Jan 1, 2008 0:05:00 GMT
For kendo, a basic bamboo shinai from e-bogu (around 20 USD) will be sufficient. In my experience, i averaged 1 broken slat every 6 months. i kept a spare shinai on hand to use for spare parts. Yes, for beginning Kendo, just buy a basic bamboo shinai; 39" length. Brand doesn't really matter for the most part. You may want to buy a couple, and learn how to take them apart and replace slats. I average one broken slat every 2 weeks or so, training hard 3 times a week. When I mentioned Hasegawa, I was jokingly referring to a brand of Carbon-Fiber shinai, which run about $250 USD. You won't need one of these. (And BTW, even C-F shinai will break over time).
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 1, 2008 5:47:21 GMT
any material will break cause with impact you stress it at the moleculer level slowly breaking the bonds and causeing fracturs
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2008 6:20:57 GMT
www.tozandoshop.com/category_s/22.htmAlthough I would not suggest a hasegawa to start with, that is a slightly ridiculous amount of money to spend on something that will break that easily. Although my advice is get a good quality bokken. Better to buy one good quality bokken and have it last then buy several sempriniesque ones and have them break one you at the worst times. Coconut bokken are brilliant because they don't shatter or splinter because they are fibrous. Just my .02 cents
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 1, 2008 7:29:24 GMT
any tips on making one cause thrers no way I'm paying 80 to 100 bucks for one when I live in florida theres a coconut tree rigth out side
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2008 8:22:05 GMT
You have a bokken right? God outside get a limb or cut down the tree and then fashion it into a bokken, all you need is the right shape. Although it would be easier just to buy one I think
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 1, 2008 12:30:24 GMT
right ..... but less personal and alot less fun
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2008 12:37:10 GMT
Find a limb the right size and work on it
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Post by salvatore on Jan 2, 2008 3:50:11 GMT
I think I will have to give this link out again.
My friend does superb bokken, just mail me if you are interested.
Sal
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