Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2007 20:02:06 GMT
This may be considered off topic, but I see no place for Eastern non-Japanese sword art. Hopefully someone here knows more than I could gleen off the iternet. Are there any practitioners of this Korean sword art here? www.dojangweb.com/gumdo.asp?start=8&catid=144Gumdo is Korean for "way of the sword." Unlike Kendo, Gumdo is more of a martial art than a sport. It focuses more on traditional sword techniques used for battle rather than duelling en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haidong_GumdoHaidong Gumdo, also spelled Haedong Kumdo, is a name coined around 1982 and used for several Korean martial art organizations that use swords. - The Japanese technique primarily focuses on one-versus-one, or individual combat. - The Korean technique primarily focuses on one-versus-many, or battlefield combat. Haidong Gumdo may be generally characterized as exchanging multiple strikes of the sword for one strike of the sword. The one strike concept characterizes the Japanese method. The Japanese ideal of "one strike, one kill" is prevalent in Japanese kendo (kumdo), even today. The merits and limitations of each of the philosophies may be debated endlessly. Probably the best way to characterize the main difference between Japanese Kendo and the Korean Haidong Gumdo styles is through training philosophy: The Korean sword in this review looks like a Katana, but there are apparently a few differences. www.arscives.com/bladesign/koreanswordreview.htmA thoughtful explaination with some detail: victorian.fortunecity.com/operatic/739/main.htm
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2007 0:53:24 GMT
I to would like to find out more about Gumdo, I live in Ausralia and the inly clubs I know of are in Sydney and the Gold coast so my training may have to wait a few years. I was thinking that when I started up with JSA that doing Gumdo as well would help make me a more all roudnded swordsman as well. I believe that another differance between the JSA
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2007 1:01:07 GMT
sorry, stupid computer pressed enter ..grr. I did a bit of research when I was trying to find a club in my area and I read somewhere that another idffenence between JSAs and Gumdo is that the strikes used in JSAs are mainly from the head down as if you are "coming down on your opponent" and in Gumdo the strikes are primarily from the ground towards the head like you are "coming up on your opponent" I probably didn't explain that to well, but if you have a look at pictures of JSA students doing Tamashagiri then look at Gumdo students doing their equivilant you will see what I mean.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2007 3:15:28 GMT
Hi Musashi,
I've been doing Gumdo for several months now & from what we've been doing in training I can say we do more strikes from top to bottom rather than the other way round.
Their is a lot of cutting done from very low stances & long low sliding stances which could make it seem the way you thought. Thats only the way we train but our master instructor is the head of the world haidong gumdo federation for Australia based here in Brisbane.
HDGD is growing rapidly like we saw TKD & HKD so you'll see many Gumdo'ish schools popping up doing all sorts of strange combinations of sword training techniques & passing them off as what ever will make them the quickest buck, sadly I think every style suffers the same fate from time to time.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2007 23:16:50 GMT
Spud, I probably am wrong that was just something a that I read while trying to find a school near me and get a liitle backgound info on the art. To bad there isn't a school near me it is an art I would love to learn. Can you recoment any good training DVDs or Vidieos to use untill I eventually move somewhere with a school.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2007 3:17:25 GMT
If you talk to practitioners that have done both you'll find out that Kendo and Kumdo(alternatively anglicized as Gumdo) are virtually identical. All the differences stated so far may be the different focuses of specific schools, organizations, teachers, or practitioners... but when you actually look at the competition aspect then you realize they're the same.
For example, the Kendobot that was the youtube vid of the month awhile back... well it wasn't a kendobot... it was a kumdobot... bet you couldn't tell the difference... could you?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2007 6:23:45 GMT
Hay Musashi,
I really don't believe in trying to learn from DVD's or Vides's as theirs just too many aspects that you need 1 on 1 time with an instructor to ever truly learn or understand.
DVD's are great for entertainment & getting ideas once you already know the basics as long as your not moving to far forward of your current skill level.
I found patterns 1 to 7 on youtube that are are almost exactly the same as what I'm doing in class although the stances are slightly different.
I use them to stay as least 1 pattern ahead of where I'm supposed to be as i can go to class & have it corrected before any bad habits set in so their useful that way. If you want to check them out heres the link to no.1 & go to the guys main page for the rest.
I know how frustrating it is to want to learn a style but just cant as their are no schools around. If you can learn JSA where you are go for it as every style has something to teach & its well worth it in the end. I've done a little Kendo, Iaido & Iaijutsu & loved every second of it, I'm sure You'll find the same thing, good luck & train hard as the more you give the more you get back in return.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2007 15:17:49 GMT
Impressive videos. How often do you train?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2007 21:19:26 GMT
Thanks Spud those videos are very helpful.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2007 6:23:43 GMT
Alant thats not me in the video & the guys not that great but i found it one of the more easy to see & understand clip's.
I train 3 times a week & am looking to increase that to about 7 times a week. I'm old & need the extra training as 20+ yrs of TKD & HKD kicking have destroyed my knees so the low stances kill me.
|
|
|
Post by bokim09 on Sept 7, 2007 12:23:26 GMT
hey;is this the stlye and sword the girl who does the 2 sword dance and very impressive cutting on youtube?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2007 17:37:59 GMT
hey;is this the stlye and sword the girl who does the 2 sword dance and very impressive cutting on youtube? We need a link to that youtube video to find out.
|
|
|
Post by bokim09 on Sept 8, 2007 18:26:23 GMT
okay;her name is yoon jak yung haven't figured out the link thing yet,please forgive my ignorance.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2007 1:49:39 GMT
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 21, 2008 20:21:09 GMT
alant Are you still interested in Haidong Gumdo? If so I have started taking it after many years of Iaido/Batto do and the major difference between them are the Forms (Katas), in Iaido/Batto do you have 4 major steps (draw, 2 cuts and re-sheath), in Gumdo you have a number of battle field moves anywhere from 4 to 12 per Form. The cuts are the same just more of them per From. The sword is a lot like the Katana and most Dojangs (Dojos) buy Katanas like the ones I got from SBG. In fact my Sabumneem (Instructor) was really surprised to see just how close both arts were with cuts and some moves. If there is Haidong Gumdo Dojang near you go for it. It's a lot of fun!! Hope this helps?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 21, 2008 20:50:19 GMT
Kendo and gumdo are more alike than you might think, so much so that gumdo practitioners take part in kendo championships in japan. Here is a nice comparison of the different martial arts and how they fit into each other: www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Field/5422/Budo.htm
|
|