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Post by Madax132 on Aug 5, 2011 21:36:31 GMT
This is a repost but being new to the forums I noticed this might be a better place since I'm a beginner asking for help
I want a big mean and durable two handed cutter that will never lose structural integrity and just looks cool, darksword seems the best place for my budget and this purpose
Please share your experience with any darksword two hander you have.
what kind of tests you've done, how it cuts, how heavily it feels and how it handles
Please, please if you have one let me know what you think
Ones that I'd particularly like to hear about are
Flames of the angel two handed sword of johannes I can't find anything on those
The ranger, specifically if the new thicker tang and peening has helped a lot and if it holds up better now
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Post by Feanor on Aug 5, 2011 22:14:20 GMT
You just can tgo wrong with DSA. All their swords are going to do what you want pick one you like, I'd go for one the newer models or a revamp of one the older ones as they may handle better. I own two DSA swords and am looking to get a few more. Get one you wont be disappointed.
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Post by Sneakypete on Aug 6, 2011 0:00:47 GMT
You want it big and mean? Check out the 12th Century Two-Hander, also called the Templar. It's the one with Militaris Templi etched in the fuller. 4.5 pounds of solid steel, practically indestructible. I sold mine not too long ago, my tastes had since changed, but this thing was a workhorse. Sang like a tuning-fork when I flicked the blade, never rattled or loosened one bit. Heavy, true, but it was actually very well balanced. If you've got that upper-body strength, it's the one for ya.
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Post by StevenJ on Aug 6, 2011 1:36:06 GMT
The 1340 is now a hair over 4 pounds according to Kult of Athena since DSA has switched to thinner stock. I just purchased a new 1339 14th century Knight's Templar two hander from DSA and should get it in within the next ten days. I'll write a review for it.
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Post by William Swiger on Aug 6, 2011 6:08:49 GMT
Hello,
I have the the:
DSA Black Prince DSA Original Gothic DSA 2-handed Norman DSA Sword of Johannes
Black Prince had some issues that I had to fix - so I cannot recommend it. DSA Gothic - Big and Long. More of a thrust sword. DSA 2-Handed Norman - Blade Heavy with the POB too far out. Not a bad sword just not well balanced. DSA Johannes - Best one of the bunch. Big but well balanced.
Would sell the others but postage would be too high. Cannot say I have been impressed with most of the DSA swords I have purchased but can say the Johannes is the best of what I have.
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Post by Federico on Aug 6, 2011 6:29:27 GMT
I own 3 two handed darksword swords.
The Anduril: Look, if you've got arms and shoulders of steel, get this. It's just brutal, much more than a GSOW. 5.5 pounds, pob close to 6 inches. The cross section is somewhat lenticular, but you'll have to put an edge on it. Personnaly, I find it to be too brutal, like the sword a legendary hero could use, but if you're a super strong guy, nothing will stop you with this.
Custom Witchking: Well, this one is a custom, so I'm not sure you can get it. It's very nice though.
DSA Gothic: Mine is completely taken apart now since I'm using it for a project, but in its original state, it was big and mean. However, it's much less brutal than the Anduril, and I doubt it would be a great cutter in it's original state. It is however as stiff as a tuck.
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Post by chuckinohio on Aug 6, 2011 6:54:04 GMT
I replied to your post in General Discussion, but will paste it here as well, so we can all stay on the same page so to speak.
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Post by Madax132 on Aug 6, 2011 7:40:38 GMT
Tell me more about the johannes, Based on the stats it seems to be the most historically accurate for balance.
How does it cut? How is the flex? How stiff is it? Any details would be much appreciated.
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Post by Madax132 on Aug 6, 2011 7:50:07 GMT
What are the differences between the new and old ranger? I would think that with the thicker tang it would be heavier but the blade is lighter now you say?
Out of the flames of the angel and the ranger which would you say has more raw cutting power and which do you think is more durable?
What do you find appealing about the guardian? How does it cut and thrust?
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Post by William Swiger on Aug 6, 2011 14:49:17 GMT
To be honest, have not cut yet with the Johannes yet. Have only had it a couple of months. Live in a town house in Germany and new people moved in next door with 4-little kids. People who lived there before were never home and I could cut all the time.
Just flexed the blade. It is stiff but was fairly easy to flex 3-inches. Blade is balanced well and not overly thick.
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Aug 6, 2011 16:28:22 GMT
You are always welcome to come over to my place to do some cutting...
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Post by chuckinohio on Aug 7, 2011 12:06:32 GMT
The differences between the old and new ranger as I see them are-
Different guard, DSA did away with the chape like protrusion from the bottom of the guard and went with a cleaner loking design. The grip treatment is better, DSA uses thinner leather now I believe, and cord imprints their grips for a bit more traction. Overall it is cleaner and more refined looking, and the new style scabbards are light years beyond what they used to offer. The weight is the same between the two, I could discern no difference. The grip on the Ranger is metal, a casting I believe, that is used to move the point of balance back owing to a heavy heavy blade. Taken all together, this makes the Ranger a task to wield, but if you slow down and concentrate solely on form, it provides you with a good workout due to its weight.
I've never cut with a Ranger, I've kept mine as blunts, but the Flame of Angels is another big heavy sword that will give you a workout wielding it. It weighs less than the Ranger, but has a longer Point of Balance making it handle pretty much the same. Cutting with it is pretty effortless once it is sharpened properly, and assuming that you can control it. As with the Ranger, I found that you don't need to muscle it through a target. Start it in motion, concentrate on form and alignment, and let the blade mass do the work. You will be surprised how hard it will hit just by getting it in motion and on target. Work up to swinging it with more authority if needed, concentrate on the basics first. If the Flame of Angels had a little longer grip, you could generate some serious force with the sword owing to improved leverage over the blade. As it stands it is wieldable, but if used with any serious intent, would wear a fellow down fairly quickly. That is assuming that you are not a physical specimen along the lines of Brock Lesnar, and are a normal mortal like me. Durability between the two would probably favor the Flame of Angels. This is owing to the Ranger weighing nearly 6 pounds. You can generate a lot of force with a sword of that weight, even going slow and at reduced power, that much weight encountering resistance will generate more stress than a lighter sword would. I evidence my tang breakage as proof of that. DSA is reknowned for building what are considered by many to be the toughest most durable swords on the market, but I still broke one. A lighter sword, struck with alacrity, will generate much the same stress, but it is already present in a heavier sword even at reduced power owing to the weight.
Caveat- The new Ranger is peened, the old one used a threaded pommel. This may very well affect the durability of the Ranger, and eliminate the tang stresses that became apparent in my old version Ranger. The new version in other words, may be every bit as durable as any other DSA product now.
The Guardian is a bit shorter, but still packs a hell of a wallop. It has a longer grip, and allows you to leverage the blade better than its heavier counterparts with shorter grips. Once sharpened suitably, it will cut damn near anything that you can set up for it, and thrusts through the same. I do not exaggerate a bit when I say, I fully believe that you could hack through a 73 buick with it, and still be able to deal with whoever was inside. It's only drawback is the weight, once again. It is not really what one could call nimble. You can maneuver it fine, and it will stay on point pretty well, but an opponent with a 3 pound bastard sword would give you the good news right quick. He is just plainly going to be faster.
It's all in expectations.
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