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P90X?
Jul 31, 2011 3:57:31 GMT
Post by dylanholderman on Jul 31, 2011 3:57:31 GMT
ok i was told about this by my brother who is a personal trainer when i told him i like working out at home more than the gym so i looked it up the dvd set is 119.00 plus another 74.00 for the pullup bar. so i want to know if its worth my money. does anyone use it or know someone who does or used it in the past?
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P90X?
Jul 31, 2011 4:23:28 GMT
Post by Vincent Dolan on Jul 31, 2011 4:23:28 GMT
I'd like to know, as well. I've been considering it for awhile.
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P90X?
Jul 31, 2011 4:42:18 GMT
Post by SeanF on Jul 31, 2011 4:42:18 GMT
Any physical training regiment is only as good as your resolve to be diligent and put the effort and time into it. I know quite a bit about physical training and I can say 100% if you are looking to get into shape finding a program that actually motivates you to do it consistently is an order of magnitude better than a physiologically superior program that you don't commit to.
So if you actually commit to it and do the work, yes it is worth it. Is it going to be $200 better than a program you can put together for free? Maybe, maybe not. But if it actually gets you on the right path (as I don't think you would be looking into it if you were satisfied with your current level of fitness) the price is well worth it.
I really don't know anything about P90X other than what I just read on Wikipedia. The emphasis on periodization is extremely smart thinking, though the term 'muscle confusion' has me a little concerned. I am not sure if they have a very mistaken view of periodization or it is just a marketing buzz word they use.
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P90X?
Jul 31, 2011 4:54:13 GMT
Post by Federico on Jul 31, 2011 4:54:13 GMT
I have it at home, and I have two friends who do it, but I never got into it. It's a very good "get fit" type of program, where you'll be losing weight and gaining some basic level strength. However, if you're already somewhat strong, I'm pretty sure it'll weaken you, since it's very much based on calisthenics arranged in circuits that quickly turn into cardiovascular/endurance training. Lots of reps at medium/light intensity. A lot of push ups and pull ups. One of my friends, who was already fit and thin (he was 5'8 150 pounds when he started), lost 15 pounds on it. If you need to lose weight fast and get in shape, and you can afford to spare an hour a day, 6 days a week, and you sleep and eat properly, it's good.
Personnally, I don't care for the beach/cut/weak physique, so I follow a program based on Ross Enamait's Never Gymless book.
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P90X?
Jul 31, 2011 18:25:08 GMT
Post by dylanholderman on Jul 31, 2011 18:25:08 GMT
hmm thats interesting you said he lost 15 lbs hmm. im in ok shape i am about 6' and 155lbs what i want is to baulk up somewhat my brother said to look at it because you don't need a lot of stuff for it just the pullup bar some dumbbells and Resistance bands
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P90X?
Jul 31, 2011 19:53:12 GMT
Post by Federico on Jul 31, 2011 19:53:12 GMT
I'm not sure P90x is the answer if you need to bulk up. Too much cardio and high reps at low/med intensity. I think something more simple would be better. Something like a 4 days a week split, where you'll hit each muscle twice a week, if you'll be using weights that is. Keep the reps under 12, and the sets 3-5. Also, if you're capable of doing more than 12 reps per exercise, it's time to increase in weight/difficulty. Right now, I'm doing a 3 day split, with one day for plyometrics, one day circuits, one day for mass and strength, and fencing twice a week. I decided to not use weights and do harder calisthenics instead. This is what I do in my mass/strength day: Chest, shoulders & triceps 1 set of one arm emphasized push ups ( www.beastskills.com/tutorials/tutorials/45 , look up one arm emphasized push up) to failure 90 seconds rest 1 set of elevated push ups to failure 90 second rest 1 set of diamond push ups to failure Upper back and biceps 1 set of pull ups to failure 90 sec rest 1 set of chin ups to failure 90 sec rest 1 set of close grip chin ups to failure Legs 3 sets of modified single leg step ups with 90 seconds of rest in between, to failure ( www.beastskills.com/tutorials/tutorials/38 , look for modified single leg step ups) 3 sets of "hamstring mega blasters", 90 secs of rest in between, to failure ( www.fitness-training-at-home.com ... cises.html , it's not as hard as the stupid name implies, and you can use a chair or a table instead of a swiss ball) If you want to use this as a complete program, you could do it 2-3 times a week, stopping one rep before failure (you'll burn out if you go to failure many times a week). You might want to add something more specific for calves, rotator cuff and traps. As you can see, I don't use equipment nor weights. I do however use a ladder that I lean against a wall. I use it to assist my push ups, to elevate my legs, to do my pull ups/chin ups, to do my step ups and the "blasters". You can vary the difficulty of the exercises if they're too easy or too hard, just use your imagination. My mass training is not totally complete, but I complete with the circuits, the plyo and the fencing.
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P90X?
Jul 31, 2011 20:38:04 GMT
Post by dylanholderman on Jul 31, 2011 20:38:04 GMT
hey thanks that sounds like a cool workout and about P90X lots of cardio is not a bad thing for me :lol: my grandfather on my moms side died of a heart attack when he was like 50 my dad doesn't have the best heart health either and his dad died from an enlarged heart so cardio wont be bad thing for me lol. do you think i could increase the intensity and decrease the reps of the program to get bigger? or just not work to failure with your workout? the problem i had with what im doing at home is it got boring and so i stopped doing it as often.
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P90X?
Jul 31, 2011 21:30:24 GMT
Post by Federico on Jul 31, 2011 21:30:24 GMT
Yeah, I heard of people doing that and getting good results, as long as you're in the proper rep range. Just watch the whole thing and change the exercises accordingly. You might want to reduce the cardio though, without eliminating it. If not, it will hinder your mass gains. Also, eat properly and enough. You can also use my workout without going to failure, but you would have to switch things around after a couple of weeks in order not to create any disbalance. If you're interested in building your own training program, get Never Gymless. It's a pretty good book (and cheap too) for people that don't feel like going to a gym, or don't have access to one (no, I don't get any royalties from sales ). If you have access to weights though, the best way to gain mass fast is a simple program based on heavy compound movements (bench press, squat, deadlifts, military press, rows, etc.). You have some examples for beginners here: www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbinfo. ... utPrograms
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P90X?
Aug 1, 2011 1:10:59 GMT
Post by dylanholderman on Aug 1, 2011 1:10:59 GMT
a note on good foods to eat i just made a really good dish what i did was cook white onions yellow squash great northern beans garlic and dried leaf basil and you cook this all up in olive oil add the beans and basil last and then add a little salt yummy
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P90X?
Aug 2, 2011 15:20:01 GMT
Post by Neil G. on Aug 2, 2011 15:20:01 GMT
I did the P90X thing for almost one full cycle. I got great results, I lost about 15 pounds, I gained a lot of solid muscle underneath what flab remained. Unfortunately my motivation flagged about 1/2 of the way through phase 3 and immediately afterwards I went on cruise...
I'll tell you that if you follow the plan that they have 100% it's a huge committment as far as time and money (the diet plan and supplements are the problem here) are concerned and if you're a busy person with a real life you'll have a hard time finding the time for it. The average workout is about an hour to an hour 15 minutes, but on certain days you add Ab-Ripper X which tacks on another 15 minutes and then you also have Yoga which is also a huge pain in the rear since it's well over an hour and a half.
Also, I'd recommend starting off with resistance bands if you're not already in great shape, because it's awefully disheartening to get started on one of the pull-up heavy days and being able to only finish two or three pullups when the people on the video are cranking out 15-20 in each set. I did gain a lot of strength and endurance. For instance, I started off using a 100 pound resistance band to simulate pullups and at the end I was using 180 pounds worth of resistance bands and keeping up with them rep wise (and occasionally busting out the pullup bar). In my shoulders and arms I went from using between 20-25 pounds for most exercises to 35-40 pounds for most. On the first day I did the plyometrics exercise I worked to exhaustion about half way through the video and the the muscle soreness the next day almost had me calling in to work 'cause I could hardly walk. At the end I was able to keep up. When it came to pushups I was starting off with sets of 8-10 and defaulting to standard pushups when they were moving on to advanced pushups, towards the end I was able to do most everything that they were doing as well.
So yeah, IF you have the motivation to stick with it you can definitely do great things. I'll warn you though that in the beginning you might be disheartened if you aren't already in shape. If you're way out of shape I'd probably recommend checking out the original Power 90 - it's not quite as hard and it'd be a great preperatory step for P90X. I've sat out working out for a while, so I think that's what I'm going to do...
Knock out a cycle of P90, then a cycle of P90X and then, provided I'm still motivated either give George St. Pierre's "Rushfit" a shot, or maybe join a gym with a Crossfit program.
(I have a friend who has had a few professional MMA fights in the past and is in phenomenal condition and he swears by Crossfit).
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Aug 14, 2011 23:58:26 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 23:58:26 GMT
I'd stop right there. You can get a decent upper body workout with a pullup bar and a chair. If you pick up a pullup bar with multiple different grips (no idea what it's called) you can do about 5 different kinds of pullups, and do that in sets with pushups. You can hold your hands close together, further apart, put your legs on the chair, cross your legs, etc. to work different parts of you chest and triceps. I wouldn't recommend trying to do one handed pushups or pullups because it can damage your shoulder. Additionally, you can do crunches on the ground as well as hanging from the pullup bar. Once your shoulders and arms strengthen up a bit (and by that I mean a lot :? ) you can even do shoulder presses by standing on your hands and pushing up and down.
Or you can get a cheap subscription to your local gym and work out the ordinary way, which works just fine. There's also swimming. But anyways I'd never consider spending that much on a DVD or pullup bar...
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P90X?
Aug 15, 2011 0:52:58 GMT
Post by LittleJP on Aug 15, 2011 0:52:58 GMT
For quick and easy, and dirty cheap, nothing beats tying on an old pair of sneakers, and alternatively jogging/speed walking anywhere between 3-10 km.
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Sept 7, 2011 23:59:46 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2011 23:59:46 GMT
I know some people who swear by it. From what I understand, it's quite scalable. You do the workouts at anywhere from very light work, to insanely intense. I've been meaning to check it out for a while now. Also, you can pick it for waaaay less on ebay. P.S. Crossfit sucks, but in a good way, like the "Man that mile sprint really sucked," kind of way. It's good.
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