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Post by LittleJP on Jul 12, 2011 0:14:24 GMT
Hey, would you happen to know anything about the "Gentleman's Sabre" they have going on?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2011 1:21:30 GMT
Can't wait to see the full review, it'll be interesting to see how Cold Steel's new offerings stack up. Shame about the balance and inaccuracies though. Your original looks to have a much more elaborate hilt, was it an officer's model as opposed to enlisted, or were there simply variations between the makers?
I too would be interested to hear about the "Gentleman's Saber," which looks suspiciously like a WWI German naval officer's saber. It appears that this has been sold before this before in the past, and there are vague references to it on the Cold Steel forum.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jul 12, 2011 5:55:05 GMT
Haven't looked into the lion headed pommeled Gentlemans Saber. The lionshead pommel is a common theme and this isn't particularly a naval application.
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Post by Freebooter on Aug 28, 2011 13:59:58 GMT
Beautiful sabre!!! Dang, might have to get me one one day!! Freebooter
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Post by S. Thomas on Aug 31, 2011 14:03:11 GMT
It`s gorgeous. If you could perhaps post some measurements on the Prussian 1876 when it arrives, it would be greatly appreciated. The Windlass 1840 Heavy Cav I find not all that unmanageable, so judging by the stats at KOA for the Austrian, I may just have to take the plunge. Was unemployed for 3 months and that brought my sword collecting to a crashing halt, but am working once more, so... I have a psychological hangup about spending more than $200 on any one sword, so I want to make the most informed choice possible. Have been reading the various posts about the Staff & Field swords. The comment about the Conf. sword being discontinued makes me want to snap one up, but, have no real affinity for them other than their being attractively priced sabres of a more or less western European type... Compared to the Weaponedge sabres, the Cold Steels are competitively priced; I`m looking at the Historyrevisited site for models and prices. The 1803 Garde Impèriale for $245 looks nice ; it`s the style of blade I like, and the grip looks like something I could get a good grip on. The cuirassier and artillery officer type sabre grips are not quite thick enough for me. Am leaning more toward one of the new Cold Steels rather than another Windlass or Weaponedge. From KOA I expect to pay $252.17 or thereabouts, plus customs charges which I sometimes do-sometimes do not have to pay. Well, having thought this one out, it`s now something of a toss-up between one of the new Cold Steels.
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Post by Reflingar on Aug 31, 2011 18:07:04 GMT
S.Thomas: I have the 1803 Imperial Guard light cavalry sabre and, althought it is a really nice looking reproduction to me, I must say that the balance is not so nice: it is very blade-heavy, the pob is far out down the blade. I know a cavalry sabre could have a bit of forward bias but this is too much for sure. Nevertheless, for the price, the finish is very good, assembly is solid and it is obvious that well sharpened it would be a vicious cutter (soft to medium targets, IMO, given the supposed softness of the temper). Just don't expect a quick recovery. I ordered it direct from Weapon Edge and the price was quite good but the delivery took a little while, maybe you could check the price with them directly? Hope this helps. Cheers, Reflingar
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Post by S. Thomas on Sept 1, 2011 13:42:34 GMT
Hadn`t considered ordering direct from Weaponedge. Was under the impression they were more or less strictly wholesale. I did send them an enquiry many months ago, about a diff. sabre but received no reply whatsoever. Have three swords manufactured by them; This particular one I`ve been procrastinating sharpening the forward one third or so of. Wouldn`t be cutting anything but the odd 4 litre milk jug or 2 litre soda bottle with it, maybe thrust practice on cardboard targets. The important thing for me is that a sword can cut and pierce say, a leather coat on a ballistic gel torso or something similar, if necessary. It`s only once in a blue moon that I cut anything with a sword, but I`d like it to be able to perform as an actual weapon if need be, ya know? And thanks for the info about the Garde Imp.
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Post by paulrward on Sept 3, 2011 23:08:12 GMT
If anyone is interested, for comparison, right now ( 9-3-11) there is an excellent Boer War Vintage British Infantry officers sword on Ebay. If you type in the search text :
BOER WAR BRITISH ARMY OFFICER'S SWORD SABRE RAJ INDIA
you should go right to it. It would make a nice side arm, perhaps a bit too etched and decorative for regular 'beater' service, but would still make a great fighting weapon in a pinch. And, right now, with 8 days to go, the price is very reasonable. It will doubtless go up, but, with the economy in the state it is, it might end up selling for a lot less than we would expect in better times.
Hope that this isnt hijacking the thread.
Respectfully Paul R. Ward
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Post by XxFULLPOWERxX on Feb 21, 2016 0:22:09 GMT
So Dave, is this thing worth getting over something like the Cold Steel 1796?
Primarily I would like it (the 1904) for cutting and maybe point-work. I'd still try thrusts with the 1796, but I suspect it would be easier with the 1904.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 21, 2016 3:50:55 GMT
So Dave, is this thing worth getting over something like the Cold Steel 1796? Primarily I would like it (the 1904) for cutting and maybe point-work. I'd still try thrusts with the 1796, but I suspect it would be easier with the 1904. Don't recommend the CS1904 for practical use. Dynamic balance isn't there. Too nose heavy. Lot of historic pipe backs fail due to the same problem of balancing the sword to achieve fluid handling and maintain decent mass at the point of percussion. Options: The CS/Windlass shamshirs. They are either Turkish or French blades in concept. Foible turns out a la hussar blade but will thrust. The Windlass/Atlanta Cutlery US M1906 Saber. Little slow handling, but this is pretty close to historical in all respect. Will need sharpening but you can buy for 199.00 before you take the SBGWEB discount. Universal Sword India British 1791 LC Officer Saber. A non-reg coffin handle saber provided by the Prince of Wales for officers of his assignated regiments. Beautiful late model Polish sabre that was propogated about europe in the 1780s. Very nice handling sabre which is a WEI best seller since we all went crazy over it. The Windlass US1913 Patton. The sword was designed as a thruster, but it will handle light targets cutting. I only mention this if you are enamored of a full guard; this can work for you. Not risking a lot of money on the sword.
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Post by bfoo2 on Feb 21, 2016 4:53:00 GMT
Seconded on the 1791 and the 1906. The latter is heavier and does take some getting used to, but the shape may be better suited for thrusting. Also Dave Kelly, I recently acquired an Austrian officer's 1904 (beautifully made, but with a tiny 30-in blade), and I've been having delusions of getting the CS 1904 enlisted to complement it. Talk me out of it, Dave.... I need to be saving money for actual antiques...
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 21, 2016 12:57:57 GMT
Seconded on the 1791 and the 1906. The latter is heavier and does take some getting used to, but the shape may be better suited for thrusting. Also Dave Kelly , I recently acquired an Austrian officer's 1904 (beautifully made, but with a tiny 30-in blade), and I've been having delusions of getting the CS 1904 enlisted to complement it. Talk me out of it, Dave.... I need to be saving money for actual antiques... I say unto thee, one cannot waste money already wasted on sumthin elst. Stay poor and thou shall not have the doors of vice opening for thy sorry ass. Buy the crappy sword and be done with it. Booohahahahaha... (Disclaimer: Degredation therapy doesn't always work. )
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Post by Afoo on Feb 22, 2016 3:00:23 GMT
Care to sell us anything better? ;)
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Post by bfoo2 on Feb 24, 2016 5:05:07 GMT
The CS 1904 totals to nearly $500 (Canadian dollars) from doorstop to doorstop here in the cold north. I could almost get a real sword for that much money...
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Post by Afoo on Feb 24, 2016 18:23:41 GMT
$420 for me. You Quebec people must be special :P
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