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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2007 18:01:11 GMT
I have a small collection of Bolos from the Philippines . My wife is from there so every time we go for a visit I go to the market and see what new ones they have that I want. The top one is a custom I had mad to take to Iraq with me. The others from top to bottom are, in the dialect of the Bicol Region (and maybe others but my wife uses that one): Minasbad (usually used for cutting sugar cane but this one has a fighting handguard) Machete (pronounce with the "ch" sound like cheese. Ginunting Together they are all bolos or sundang (either are just words for big knife.)
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Post by randomnobody on Sept 10, 2007 1:13:43 GMT
I love how ornate the furniture on these get, despite the strictly business look of the blades. Have to give credit to whoever carved them.
The engravings on the blades are nice, too.
I've always been a bit shaky about buying one of these; can't seem to get past the difference in width at the tip versus the hilt. Something that big joins at a point that small, it just looks fragile there. Obviously it's not, as I'm sure the design would never have survived if it were, but it toys with my sense of aesthetics.
Eventually I'll own a decent bolo. What do they run over there, price-wise, anyway? Are they expensive?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2007 2:01:02 GMT
I paid $15-20 for each (even the big custom He said he'll charge more next time he does one that big though). The shipping is actually more than the knife. The handguard piece is actually carved from the same horn. The brass pieces are almost always loose but as they are just decorative it hasn't bothered me (easy to fix with a bit of glue). The tag actually goes all of the way through and is curved with the horn. I can be seen in the center of the brass cap on the tiger's head (or on my custom the horse's and thats actually the first horse head he ever carved). I have a few people over there watching for an albino horn to have one made with. They say you can see the tang through the handle on those.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2007 2:03:42 GMT
Forgot to mention they are pretty much buisness. I got most of them right off the table in the market where they sell them to the farmers. As for the custom ... my wife's uncle knows the makers (brothers).
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Post by randomnobody on Sept 10, 2007 2:13:34 GMT
That's amazingly cheap. I don't suppose you know of any good places to find these online? Or are they pretty much bought directly in the market?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2007 2:20:29 GMT
I've seen some online but the have american pricing ($120+) and were made for export (more polised, better finish / more decorative, les functional looking) and I dont really know anything about their construction except they usually have wood rather than horn handles.
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Post by Razor on Sept 17, 2007 5:05:36 GMT
Cool bolos Firehand10k My Grandfather brought this back from WWII, I don't know if it is a bolo or something else. 22" O/A 17" blade the edge is a chisel ground.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2007 5:44:43 GMT
great collection firehand :-) makes me proud about my heritage... its a shame though that i dont own one ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2007 8:43:55 GMT
Thats a nice one Razor. It is a bolo since that word covers any big knife but its a style I haven't seen before. I'll ask my wife if she knows a more specific name but I don't think that type is in her region. With the sharpened edge being straight it almsotlooks like a small kampilan dirivative. Very interesting carving on the handle too I'd like to find out what it is supposed to be. It almost looks like some kind of horn nosed snake.
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Post by Razor on Sept 17, 2007 20:18:37 GMT
Thats a nice one Razor. It is a bolo since that word covers any big knife but its a style I haven't seen before. I'll ask my wife if she knows a more specific name but I don't think that type is in her region. With the sharpened edge being straight it almsotlooks like a small kampilan dirivative. Very interesting carving on the handle too I'd like to find out what it is supposed to be. It almost looks like some kind of horn nosed snake. That would be nice if you find out what it is. I have always wondered what it is. Some people thinks the carving looks African or a rhino's head.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2007 16:30:38 GMT
Hey Razor that is a style of blade that they use in Bicol (my wife's province). Its very popular for cutting open coconuts and was probably made for that originally since if they make a fighting bolo they usually put on some kind of hand guard (like my minasbad). They animal head carving is most likely based on the Javan Rhinoceros. Its one horned Asian rhino that has only about 60 living examples in the world. Those are in Vietnam and Indonesia but they used to be spread over a much larger region including Malasia and other islands in the area. Some Philippine myths mention them too, my wife told me, but she can't remember what they called them. The handle does look like the water buffalo horn thats usually use so it should be good and strong for use. I think I see markings/etching on the blade. If it is can you get a better picutre of it? Sometimes that can be traced to a location or even a maker/family (alot of time the skill is passed down by the countryside bolo makers). Thats how I know that even though all of mine were done over about 6 years and bought from different sources they were all made by 2 brothers (they use the same mark with a slight difference in dimensions). Its fun to look into.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2007 1:56:23 GMT
razor, that's what you call a binangon, from the island of Panay. very nice piece! the jury is still out on what the pommel signifies. it's been assumed anywhere from a local mythical dragon known as bakosawa, to a bastardized version of the indonesian mythical creature known as makara. and Firehand10K is correct about the composition of the handle, which is carabao horn. I bet you it's balanced as heck...
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Post by Razor on Oct 13, 2007 4:48:09 GMT
Thank you Firehand10k and Joe for the info karma for both, sorry Joe but can not give you karma right now, but I will as soon has I can.
the handle is made of horn and I do remember someone also saying something about a mythical creature to. You're right Joe it has a good balance.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2007 5:20:36 GMT
i came across this antique shop when i was strolling in the mall yesterday. thought i show it to you guys sorry for the crappy pic. it was taken from a meager Nokia 7610 camphone
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2007 11:57:01 GMT
lemme guess; manila, right? word of warning though, hiead; i would bet my best sword that 99 percent of those swords displayed are recent made. of course, the vendor will tell you they're antiques. i can tell you this; you'll have better chance of finding antique filipino weapons here in the states (mostly thru g.i. bringback) than you would over there in the philippines. most of those are reproduced in tugaya, a town in lanao. tho it's made by indegenous tribes (maranao) they're still repros. if you're looking for antique stuff you better off finding one in our local gunshows.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2007 12:01:56 GMT
on second thought; those kampilans on the katana sword holder, they might be deserving a second look....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2007 23:30:58 GMT
i was actually hoping that there was at least a gunto in that antique shop but to no avail but i did like that "antique" sword holder
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2007 8:44:40 GMT
I've been looking for a nice Kampilan. Did you check out any prices? Which mall was it? My mother-in-law will be in Manila soon. May have to send her shopping.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2007 12:45:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2007 16:14:49 GMT
Very nice. May contact then but still like to find out what they cost over there. I wouldn't have to pay shipping then since we have a trip next summer to pick up my stepson anyway.
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