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Post by omototashito on Jun 25, 2011 3:13:19 GMT
Hello, Has anyone done any cutting tests with any of the Kris cutlery Katanas? If so, how do they fair as far as cutting ability? Thanks!
Omoto Tashito
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Post by Brian Timmons on Jun 25, 2011 16:30:45 GMT
I used to own an older generation KC 29" katana. I didn't cut frequently with it, but it was a beefy aggressive blade. Plowed through double walled cardboard like butter.
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Post by omototashito on Jun 25, 2011 17:23:54 GMT
Thanks for sharing! Sounds like a grea blade!
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Post by Brian Timmons on Jun 25, 2011 20:52:26 GMT
I guess I should add a few notes. The 29" I had was rather beefy and tip heavy. It couldn't be used one handed unless your wrists are the size of tree trunks. It is a stout cutter, but others undoubtedly handle better. I guess it just depends on what you want from a sword. As a first "beater", it did the job for me.
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Post by omototashito on Jun 25, 2011 22:56:37 GMT
Well Said thanks for the input
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Post by frankthebunny on Jun 27, 2011 1:45:35 GMT
maybe the older gens weren't balanced as well as the newer ones because mine feels just right with a pob of approx. 5 3/4" from the tsuba. although I can wield it one handed fairly well, it has excellent movement and control with two. I prefer the 26" for the faster draw and slightly better maneuverability but my 29A is still one of my favorites
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Post by omototashito on Jun 27, 2011 5:51:56 GMT
Frank the bunny, Thanks I am still paying for my Katana 26II and I cannot wait to maneuver it!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2011 9:46:22 GMT
KC blades are "ok", but I would have someone like Tom K, or Dadaochen sharpen the blade for you. The blade will be able to cut decently, but with the type of cutting that has become popular these days I am not sure the stock edge will be up to it...
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Post by omototashito on Jun 27, 2011 16:57:25 GMT
I will keep that in mind thanks so much!
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Post by frankthebunny on Jul 4, 2011 3:19:35 GMT
typically, KC's 5160 blades don't come paper slicing sharp but this is mostly because of the edge geometry. they might not slice paper but believe me, it will slice flesh like a scalpel. I recently stropped the edge of my 26II and it now easily and cleanly slices through even thick card stock. just a little jewelers rouge and a piece of belt leather and about 10 minutes
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Post by omototashito on Jul 4, 2011 3:50:55 GMT
Very Cool frankthebunny, I am still putting down payment on my Katana 26II but I am still going to have you do some work on it someday!
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Post by kanku on Jul 4, 2011 21:22:34 GMT
Hi guys, talking about KC 26" and 29" katanas I'd like to ask you if the curved nakago(and tsuka) has any negativ impact on handling when you cut with? I ask because I do own a 26"custom kat("deep sori with nakago to follows blade's curvature.....) from SINOS and I find it very uncomfortable, primarily on my left wrist in case of an downward diagonal cut to the left,....any thoughts or advice are welcome.
ps. please excuse my english....
kanku
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Jul 4, 2011 21:25:00 GMT
could it possbly be the way your gripping it? or are you extending too far in he downward cut, that used to cause pain in my left hand when using a long sword, i would extend to far downwar and torque my wrist
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Post by omototashito on Jul 5, 2011 2:21:03 GMT
I have to agree with Saito. I would like to see some pics of your custom Katana Plz
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Post by nihontoman on Jul 5, 2011 18:21:57 GMT
well, it shouldn't be a problem. nihonto had curved tsuka and I guess samurai never complained, otherwise the shape would be straight
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Post by omototashito on Jul 5, 2011 18:44:13 GMT
@nihonoto, Yes that is my thinking as well.
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Post by Lobster Hunter on Jul 6, 2011 7:35:36 GMT
I don't know about tsukas that aggressively follow the curvature of the blade but it sounds like you could adjust how you make your cutting stroke to take the pressure off your wrist.
Try ending your diagonal high right to low left cut with a "pulling in" or "drawing" motion from the point of contact with the target (either real or imagined) when your arms are almost at full extension. Your stroke could end with your left elbow bent almost to 90 degrees (around 120 degrees). Your left hand should be grasping the tsuka as if you were holding an umbrella or a tennis racket. In other words, more like a handshake grip as opposed to a hammer grip. I don't know if this kind of movement is prescribed by JSA but it certainly takes a lot of pressure off your left wrist and elbow.
And remember, your left hand is the boss. Let it lead without interference. Your right hand is there to help support and guide the stroke.
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Post by omototashito on Jul 6, 2011 18:56:32 GMT
@lobster Hunter Very well put. I like what you said about the relationship between the left and right hand. The left arm needs to be bent on the left side cut. The hands need to be gripping the sword but not to the point of having lack of control.
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Jul 6, 2011 21:04:08 GMT
95% of problems with any swords can be solved by modifying ones grip lol. the viking sword killed my wrist til i learned the handshake grip
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Post by kanku on Jul 6, 2011 21:17:44 GMT
Well...at this time I must to admit that I have other two katanas with usual tsuka and sori to cut with and I have no problems. My cutting movement is more or less as Lobster Hunter said(in case of single cut(s)), so I continue to believe that the problem is from the curved shape plus the sword dimensions, they simply do not match and the result is an unbalanced sword. Here are the dimensions: nagasa 26", tsuka 12", sori 1", kasane 7.4mm, mihaba 31mm. At the moment I already cut off about 2" from the end of nakago, but I intend cut more because I want to make a short tsuka, its my only hope. I can only blame the designer for this who in this case was me, my self and I. What can I say? two years ago my experince was less and with all that "sori madness" I made a bad decision,..lesson learned (no hard feelings Kaio!)my fault. Thx all of you.
Omototashito, special thanks to you, I had no intention to hijack your topic, good luck for your new KC 26" acquisition
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